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this hope radio for the masses Atlanta

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balloon dramatically 1947 here on the

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airport who has announced that applying

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there has been found and is now in the

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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change the game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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I need your help to get to the year

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- black with Jimmy judge on the game

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changing Network

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good evening they'd apply

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with spoke radio

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masses yeah man today's Wednesday

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314 days into the new year Jeff it

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one day's left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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down

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bang California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network and Katie RA the

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planet I am your host Amy Church what is

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crack and everybody how you doing

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oh man oh man oh man

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here we go tonight's very special guest

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Randall Carlson is here calling this

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show in that conversation there is

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nothing like sitting down with somebody

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like Randall Carlson and and engaging

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for two or three hours and that's what

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we're gonna do here tonight so much to

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discuss with them especially coming off

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of a great show that we did with ed

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Nightingale right and so we're gonna

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dovetail these two together and it is so

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important to figure out you know I'm

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gonna lay it out to you like this okay

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it's like this what is the purpose of

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human of being alive if we are not able

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to ask questions about where we came

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from why are we here and where are we

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going that you know the three basic

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questions and you kind of acquit you

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know it's just like well you know why

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there are people out there that you know

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you know why what what do you mean why

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you know there are when you do the

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research of maybe you're you know

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anthropologist right you're some kind of

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historian or you are an astronomer right

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and and you are looking at the Stars and

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you know looking at you know our future

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and our past through the stars right or

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you're out digging in you know and

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looking at bones in our past or your

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geologists near these things aren't

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profitable you're not making money for

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some corporation there isn't products

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that you are selling you know and so

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there are those out there that would say

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you know why well you know what support

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wealthy if we can't ask these important

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what's the purpose of even being alive

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right what what is it it's like going

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back and looking at you know you go

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to Picasso and he's painting and you're

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like dude 1 you know why why are you

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painting that why are you sculpting that

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why you do it's part of being human you

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know and who we are you know and and

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these answers you know and that's what I

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with the great Randall Carlson and have

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a conversation it's an amazing thing to

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be able to do and that's part of being

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human we answer those questions we

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figure things out we ask those questions

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and take things a step further that's

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what we do and that's what fade to black

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is all about that's what this community

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is all about tomorrow night is another

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with the premiere of Teresa generis

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tomorrow night spent my day I'm very

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excited about this spent my day today

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you can see my t-shirt right tascam like

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gear here I mentioned it the other day

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spent my day getting that worked out

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which by the way it's not running it

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will be tomorrow you should see what

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they they have sent it you know I mean

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look at look at this remote control look

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at that can I can I get this up in here

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for the camera look at that pretty nice

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just so anyway that and getting Teresa's

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new studio set up and it was just a

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crazy day or honey you're just a crazy

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day and when you spend four or five six

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hours you know installing things and and

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hardware and software and cables and

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then you know and I've got Teresa on the

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phone and getting her set up and she's

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meanwhile coming back and and trying to

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up - it's just just a crazy frazzled day

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just a crazy day so anyway I didn't I

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didn't spend I spent literally five

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minutes today on social media

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five minutes in little two minute

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increments and I'm gonna talk about that

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in just a minute on stellar on stellar

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calm you know what to do go and follow

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like and subscribe to Twitter at a

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church radio Facebook YouTube step out

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of line you get blocked that's what you

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just don't do negative people you think

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I really don't and the sandbox is

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hashtag F to be on Twitter and if you

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have any questions or comments during

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the show tonight

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hashtag F to be Q alright Jimmy check

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out this awesome remote control also it

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doesn't work I know right I mean look at

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this color screen soft buttons it's good

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look at that right hold on let me get

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this look at that that's a remote

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control man doesn't work will tomorrow

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tomorrow I promise and it's what it does

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gear it's controlling something else

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down here in the rack I can't you know

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that that was installed too as well and

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everything's powered up it's all cabled

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okay it'll be tomorrow and then I'll

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tell you what it's doing it's really

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really cool you can email Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm and I do want to thank

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tascam for the cool t-shirts and we'll

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be shooting videos and stuff for them

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with all of this new gear on and how it

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alright alright don't forget to

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subscribe to our podcast it is just two

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dollars per month and I click on the

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also become a fader not in our

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membership section over at Jimmy Choo

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radio comm you do what you want just go

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become a member and we will be launching

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website next month will be December 31st

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we're gonna do it on January 1st

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December 31st were gonna be partying

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that would be New Year's Eve but Tuesday

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I think New Year's Day is on a Tuesday

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this year so yeah don't look for a show

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from us on that Monday let's get this

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show crackin happy birthday to today

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Joni Mitchell Joni Mitchell today is

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seventy-five years old our dead guys

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birthday today dana plato 1964 to 1999

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died at the age of 34 of course he was a

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teen star on TVs Diff'rent Strokes from

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1978 to 1986 and on May 7th 1999 the day

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before she died she appeared on the

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Howard Stern Show ok did an interview it

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was the next day driving back to

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California there in the Winnebago

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now they pull over visit somebody family

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member and she went to lie down inside

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of that Winnebago take a nap and then

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she died of an overdose her death was

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eventually ruled a suicide crazy too

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because we all watched Diff'rent Strokes

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right we did we all watched it and she

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1999 happy birthday dana plato on this

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day in history OTD 1991 Magic Johnson

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stuns the world by announcing his sudden

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retirement for the Los Angeles Lakers

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after testing positive for HIV all right

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here's a fader fact for you it's a it's

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it's an easy one to figure out but it's

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kind of shocking to right are you ready

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earth is the only planet that is not

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named after a god that's right

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where am i what am i doing oh yeah

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Randall Carlson is here it's gonna be

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here for the duration of the night we're

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gonna do a full conversation about

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everything about us who we are where we

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came from who was here before us and

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where are we going all of that tonight

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with the one and only Randall Carlson I

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want to remind everybody tomorrow night

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is another Fator night open lines all

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night long with the premiere of Teresa

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and eros she's gonna be here hopefully

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her studio her new one is going to be up

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and running all right now we're gonna

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have a conversation all of you love my

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River moon coffee I started to warm up

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everybody in the community a few months

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ago about the drama that was about to

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unfold and at the time I was vague and I

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understand that and at the time the

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comments that were coming in wall just

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about the same

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you know what's Jimmy on about what's

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Jimmy talking about I have no clue what

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he's talking about which to me talking

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about now get that well now you know

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sort of but I saw it all coming and I

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just wanted everybody to kind of brace

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themselves for the coming storm and and

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I didn't feel good about it okay there

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this this was brewing now for a couple

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of years yep

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and when when I see something negative

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out there I don't care what it is

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believe it or not my reaction to

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negativity is block block it doesn't

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matter because I just don't want to read

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it I don't want to get involved I don't

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care

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I in my day from the moment that I wake

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up until I hit the red on-air light for

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this show I am working I'm working I'm

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writing I'm researching I'm booking

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guests I'm talking to guess I'm

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advancing the show I'm working on the

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audio I'm working on production artwork

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and things and audio files are moving

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around and maintenance I'm the studio

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and you know what I also have a life out

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there you know and I've got to deal with

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all of that and my dogs and and then

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things right and my family and my

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daughters and my beautiful wife all of

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that applies to my day and anything out

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there that takes me off of point takes

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me off a message I don't care I don't

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care I block I'm not distracted that's

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what I do okay and so all of this was

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building up all of this was building and

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I saw it I saw it coming and you know

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and I met it and and because of that and

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Here I am today now talking to you with

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the entire nation right now freaking out

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we've just finished the elections

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yesterday and all of the emotional

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things that are going on in this country

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is divided and it's craziness and Jeff

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Sessions got fired today

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resigned you know and so we get through

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the elections and we come into today and

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hopefully it's a fresh start for

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everybody whatever side you are on red

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blue middle green I don't care right all

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that all of that is going on the

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craziness in the world and that country

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everything is nuts right now right so

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all of these emotions are flying the

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timing couldn't be better for our family

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here to react and lose it over a bunch

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of nothing seriously and if you really

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think about it if you

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really think about it what is all of

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this about UFOs alien contact disclosure

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really we want to blow this thing up

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over that it's crazy there are

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individuals right now right now that

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want to be the district attorney they

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want to be the police they want to be

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the judges of our community and it

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doesn't work that way and I'm talking

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about from any side I'm not naming any

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names I'm talking about

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pick a side and somebody out there is

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trying to tell you or somebody else how

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it is they want to run things and I'm

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telling you right now it doesn't matter

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who you are you know exactly what I am

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saying every side this community can

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police itself it always has and it

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always will don't think that you are the

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Lord and Commander that you can go and

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do whatever you want and point fingers

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you know but I'm talking about all sides

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here the blame the anger that

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finger-pointing it's gone on for so long

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from so many different sources on all

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sides I'm talking about from companies

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from individuals from researchers from

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authors abductees experiencer it is nuts

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to me it's gone back a couple of years

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and if you've been blocked by me well

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there you go

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right it doesn't matter but listen to me

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I am calling right now right now for

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chill I'm asking for a truce it has now

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gotten to the point where the flames the

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anger and everything else ever get but

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getting pushed into a corner and it

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doesn't matter it doesn't matter who who

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you are who the victims are and and who

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is playing the games because it's on

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both sides it's on every side so I am

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asking right now a truce

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if you've been doxed truce if you are

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daxing truce if you are angry truce if

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you don't believe somebody truce if

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you're somebody that has been blamed

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truce you want to react time out that's

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it and I know I know that right now

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everybody that I'm talking about is

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listening to me so I am asking you

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stop stop stop tweeting stop texting

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stop posting stop commenting stop just

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stop stop it's time for a truce the

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prize here the price you know what I'm

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concerned about you know what I care

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about I care about are we being visited

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right now by et what does the government

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know what's going on in the skies

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what's going on with Egypt what's going

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on with ancient civilizations you know

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what's going on with time travel and

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parallel universes the these big

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conspiracies going on if that's what I

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care about

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that's the prize that's what we need to

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be focused on that's it you know and to

355
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think that there are victims right now

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people that are been attacked from all

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sides - it doesn't matter

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that are lying in bed at night freaked

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out because of personal attacks and they

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you know you know what that's wrong you

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just don't do it there are people that

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that are that are being attacked that

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I'm not fans of I don't even know I

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don't concern myself with but they don't

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deserve it I may not you know approve or

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whatever but we don't do this there are

367
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people right now that are doing these

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attacks out of vengeance or reacting you

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know oh they attacked me I'm going to

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attack back stop it it's time for a

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truce there are people right now that

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are lying in bed in the dark with their

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eyes open looking at the ceiling going

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man I can't wait to just get up tomorrow

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and do something you know what over UFOs

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over a Lea are you kidding me I'm done

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with it I'm done

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doxxing is wrong attacking is wrong

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personal attacks are wrong you know what

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is right trying to figure out what is

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going on in the skies up there what is

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going on that is what you need to focus

383
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your energy on not reacting not freaking

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out I don't want people losing sleep

385
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wondering about how somebody is going to

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attack them on Facebook or on Twitter or

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or an email or on a website on a youtube

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video comment thread thing that is just

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wrong and that's not what this community

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is about and quite frankly I'm tired and

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I saw it coming

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and I just tried to warn everybody how

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is it that I have to sit here on a

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beautiful show like tonight and speak

395
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about this and it's really now it's

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gotten to be that big of a deal so today

397
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I am running around I am talking with

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technicians at companies I'm when I say

399
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running around I'm missing a cable I'm

400
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out I'm on the phone I'm trying to

401
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figure things out I'm I'm coming back

402
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I'm bolting in on this I'm software and

403
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I'm changing file names and downloading

404
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and just craziness here and I just spin

405
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around in the middle of the day and I

406
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look and I just happened to glance at

407
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Twitter and I'm watching what's going on

408
00:23:03,260 --> 00:22:55,680
it's just like well that's just man are

409
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we - are we you know two years old so

410
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yes I'm asking for a truce I we need a

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time out

412
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everybody take a deep breath it's been

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building for a couple of years and in

414
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the end those out there on any side that

415
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have been nitpicking and poking and just

416
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just thumbing each other in the chest

417
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and said what did you think the end

418
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result was gonna be and now everybody's

419
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upset right well now it's come down to

420
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what we are doxing are you kidding me

421
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this community we are supposed to be you

422
00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:43,410
know fourth dimensional fifth

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dimensional six of been tional beings of

424
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of benevolence of kindness of being

425
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awakened and consciousness and moving

426
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into the future and concerned about this

427
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planet and Gaia and earth and things and

428
00:24:02,900 --> 00:23:59,450
pets left that's what we are about and

429
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:02,910
if you are taking out your time to

430
00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:06,780
attack others or or react in an attack

431
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:08,100
back and you think you're doing the

432
00:24:12,380 --> 00:24:09,720
right thing you are losing the respect

433
00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:12,390
of this community nobody is going to

434
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:15,000
respect you and I don't care who you are

435
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:19,410
because I'm speaking to everybody done

436
00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:21,450
with it I'm done

437
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:25,830
so listen to me listen post something

438
00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:29,520
negative on Twitter you're blocked post

439
00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:31,350
something negative on Facebook I don't

440
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,980
care you're blocked Oh Jimmy blocked me

441
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,960
man I'm on the blood list well good for

442
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:37,440
you

443
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:40,650
cuz I don't care I don't

444
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:44,970
don't care and I'm encouraged if that's

445
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:47,850
what if that's what it takes you know

446
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:50,400
that all of the negativity this

447
00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:52,500
community will block you into

448
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,020
insignificance it's really true so it's

449
00:25:03,050 --> 00:25:00,000
time for everybody to grow up put on

450
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:03,060
your big-boy pants your big-girl pants

451
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:05,730
tighten your shoelaces it's time for a

452
00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:10,520
truce bite your lip and and live with it

453
00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:13,830
we need to move on there is other stuff

454
00:25:18,530 --> 00:25:16,590
to worry about like having this

455
00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:18,540
beautiful show tonight with Randall and

456
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:21,660
and I've got to sit here leading up to

457
00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:23,970
this by the way let me tell you

458
00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:26,660
something I just spent six hours today

459
00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:29,220
frustrated and putting gear into this

460
00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:29,940
studio

461
00:25:35,420 --> 00:25:32,820
my nerves are already frazzled and I've

462
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:35,430
got two moments before the show come

463
00:25:42,260 --> 00:25:38,010
back on and I am reading this stuff and

464
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:42,270
I'm simply wait a minute here you know

465
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:44,520
and I know I know some of these people

466
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:47,490
personally and I know how cool they are

467
00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:51,210
I know how maybe unstable it we're all

468
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:54,270
emotional you know we're all emotional

469
00:25:59,840 --> 00:25:56,130
beings and what brings us into this

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00:26:02,030 --> 00:25:59,850
community are things that that not only

471
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:02,040
are emotional but you know what they're

472
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:05,730
fragile and we start to go and and mess

473
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:08,370
with those things that are we whole

474
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:10,890
precious and dear it's easy to come

475
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:13,830
unhinged and people know that and

476
00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:15,510
they're poking at this community and

477
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,270
it's just you know we got to stop we

478
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:21,200
have got to stop and that's my message

479
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:23,670
that's what this show has always been

480
00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:27,810
about and it's community first so that's

481
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:32,280
it that's my message truce truce and

482
00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:35,570
from this moment forward I'm not playing

483
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:38,670
listen to me from this moment forward

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00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:42,210
any negativity people are going to

485
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:45,810
recognize it because you're part of the

486
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:49,410
problem now you can change right now

487
00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:52,590
just go you know what okay enough is

488
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:54,540
enough all right the

489
00:27:01,940 --> 00:26:58,320
give it a shot let's give it a shot

490
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:01,950
let's just let's just all get along time

491
00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:06,090
out sometimes you got a retreat and you

492
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,520
got to think about things take a deep

493
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:17,390
all this over UFOs really really think

494
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:18,140
about that

495
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:20,370
it's fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

496
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:24,090
Church yeah you can email me Jimmy at

497
00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:27,690
Jimmy Church radio.com alright there you

498
00:27:32,660 --> 00:27:31,020
go I won't even read it on the air let's

499
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:32,670
get out of here I want to have some fun

500
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:36,030
I'm gonna talk to Randall Carlson watch

501
00:27:39,790 --> 00:27:38,370
me change my tune I'm gonna go through

502
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:39,800
this commercial break

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I'm gonna come back bright-eyed and

504
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:47,810
bushy-tailed it's all good all right

505
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:51,360
time out we're moving on to fade to

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black I'm yours to me Church email those

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to me at Jimmy Church radio.com follow

508
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me on twitter @ JT radio yeah a block

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yet a block yeah I'll be right back

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after this short break stay with us

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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hosting the church tonight Randall

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Carlson is here tomorrow night

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Fator night open lines all night long

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premier above theresa generis she's

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gonna be here dividing frequency on the

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airwaves premiering tomorrow night

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very excited about that and I was just

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watching in Twitter okay Jimmy you want

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a truce you got to unblock everybody you

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know I've got 4500 people blocked in

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yeah I'll take a look at that I'll

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consider it

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okay I will I will I will I look I

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practice what I preach all right but now

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it's about Randall he's a master builder

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architectural designer teacher and the

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thing is about Randall he's a renegade

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he's been four decades of study research

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and exploration into the interface

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between the ancient mysteries of modern

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science has been an active Freemason for

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thirty years and it is a past master one

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of the oldest and largest Masonic lodges

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in Georgia he has been recognized by the

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National Science Teachers Association

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for his commitment to science education

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for young people his work incorporates

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ancient mythology astronomy earth

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science paleontology symbolism sacred

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geometry and architecture geomancy and

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other arcane and scientific traditions

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for over 25 years he has presented

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classes lectures and multimedia programs

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synthesizing this information for

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students of the mysteries tonight we're

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gonna go back we're gonna go way back

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into the history of North America the

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true history before Columbus or anyone

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else who say that they may have

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discovered America and the evidence of

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other civilizations that may have

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started here and spread around the world

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and then we're going to look to the

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future we're gonna do it all tonight

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that's why I'm calling it the

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conversation his web site is sacred

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geometry international comm and I would

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like to welcome back to fade to black a

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man of sense and sensibilities and a

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nice beard Randall Carlson Randall good

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evening my friend how are you

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well thanks for having me back Jimmy I'm

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actually doing pretty well other than a

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strained hamstring from over exercising

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this morning other than that I'm doing

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well can I can I throw you under the bus

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a little bit and tell everybody about

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our brief conversation before the show

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tonight because it was it was pretty

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cool it's funny so hopefully it's not

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anything embarrassing right yeah exactly

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for both of us in that I'm just gonna

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let everybody know so Randall Randall

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calls me we always talked before the

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show and he calls me and he was like

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Jimmy I'm depending on you tonight I

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need you to brighten my day I need to

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get relaxed I want I need you to pull it

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all out I was like Randall I need you

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for the same things I'm completely

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stressed and it was just so funny how we

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brought both looking forward to the show

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and getting psyched up and pumped up and

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we we needed each other for the same

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exact reasons so here we are Randall

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you're brightening my day thank you for

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that well thank you Jimmy I'm trying to

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do whatever I can I know that you need

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all the little boost you can get in your

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day-to-day routine and so if I can help

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in that matter

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I'm all for it Oh bad this wait Jimmy

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till I get you out in the field for a

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few days

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I know you know I'm so looking forward

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to that opportunity where we can just go

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and and disconnect you know leave our

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cell phones away from us and just go and

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check out this great country of ours and

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and oh man yeah yeah I look forward to

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that Randall and thank you for the

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invitation you know it we have our paths

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have been so close to crossing over the

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last few years and we have missed those

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opportunities we're talking about that

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tonight

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you know we narrowly missed each other a

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couple of years ago and and I just can't

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believe that we let that slip bias but

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we can't let it happen again all right

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I agree now I actually want to start

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here tonight let's kind of relax and

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let's go back a couple of steps your

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presentations and your web presence and

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your conversations especially over the

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last few years have had a lot of impact

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on myself personally and this community

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what what started this interest for you

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I mean going back when you and I'm

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talking about the interest of not only

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cataclysms and world events but past

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civilizations and and in the distant

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distant past what what advantage do we

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have to learning these things why go and

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do it why the commitment oh well lucky

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that was actually several questions

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let's tackle the last one first which

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was basically why do it I mean the

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question becomes why do anything to

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perpetuate our continued existence we do

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things every day to make sure that we

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optimize our chances of surviving

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through the day right when we get in our

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car and we strap ourselves in with our

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seatbelts when we're going to cross the

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street and we look both ways

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you know the idea is that whatever the

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purpose and value of life I think it's

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our job here to attempt to sustain that

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life and so I guess you'd say that what

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I'm looking at is the long-term

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sustainability of human civilization on

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earth because up to this point we

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haven't had a really good track record

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because what we see is the leftovers of

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multiple civilizations that rose from

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the dust thrived for a while prospered

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for a while and then for whatever reason

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went down and there's a lot of lessons

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there that we have to learn about in

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long term sustainability and I guess

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that's kind of what I'm trying to do is

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to get more people to shift their

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perspective a little bit to take in the

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big picture rather than just the

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day-to-day events the the trivia of day

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to day that I can

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so much of our time and so much of our

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attention and so much of our

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consciousness is important and we have

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to deal with that but at the same time

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if we ignore the big picture we're going

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to be in trouble and I would like to

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think that there is a that there is a

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long term game plan that we can be

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successful on this planet that we can be

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prosperous that we can continue to

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improve as a species to get more

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intelligent and wiser and I think that

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turning to our past and the lessons and

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the legacy of our ancestors that have

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come before us is going to be absolutely

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vital in attaining that kind of

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absolutely necessary perspective and so

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what kicked it off then and in and so

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that's the back end right that's the

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last question first

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what happened Randall said there was

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something in your life where you just

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went okay I need to do this I mean well

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I get asked that question and I keep

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going back trying to pinpoint okay I it

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was that thing it was that event it was

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that day and really Jimmy I think I got

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to go right back and say I've been

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cursed since the day I was born I had I

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had no alternative I just know I came

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into this world like going what the holy

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[\h__\h] man I need to figure this out so I

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can recall being seven years old walking

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this that we lived in rural Minnesota

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and back in those days a seven-year-old

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could walk you know a quarter mile over

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to a neighbor's house the Wolves had

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been cleared out about that time in the

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Coyotes and the Bobcats and so on so

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there wasn't too much fear so I was

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walking over to his neighbor's house and

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visited a friend and then I was walking

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back and they had a big willow tree on

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the hill that they lived on and I just

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remember stopping under that willow tree

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and having I guess what you would say my

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first mystical experience in life were

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everything just seemed to converge into

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a grand synthesis and for about 10

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minutes I stood there under that tree

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feeling like it was totally at one with

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everything and then the feeling went

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away and I

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home and resume my life but I'll never

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forget that that might be the earliest

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time I can remember that there was a

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sense of something grander or something

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great or something to transcended that

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the day-to-day the mundane routine of

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our existence and then I can go on and

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there were different points you know

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experiences I had probably more than

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anything I believe it was probably

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growing up in a rural environment and I

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had because of the fact that my parents

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got divorced when I was nine years old I

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grew up back and forth between the world

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of my mother which was Louisiana and the

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world of my father which was Minnesota

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so I had rural Minnesota and I had rural

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small town backwoods Louisiana

812
00:42:40,770 --> 00:42:39,520
experiences so I think between those and

813
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:40,780
traveling up and down the Mississippi

814
00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:44,050
River typically on a daily base daily a

815
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:46,780
yearly basis when I go to visit one or

816
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:50,080
the other parent just you know these

817
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:53,710
things just kind of accumulate there was

818
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:56,110
also a place that I used to go with my

819
00:43:02,010 --> 00:42:58,960
grandparents up on the st. Croix River

820
00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:02,020
which forms the border between part of

821
00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:04,420
Minnesota and part of Wisconsin and it's

822
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,630
a beautiful River Valley it's now a sort

823
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:09,760
of like a nature preserve but there's a

824
00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:11,260
section in there with our basalt

825
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:13,840
outcrops and on one of these basalt

826
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:15,790
outcrops on the Minnesota side of the

827
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:18,250
river there's a series of these gigantic

828
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:20,980
potholes that have been drilled up to 80

829
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:24,130
feet into the bedrock some mark 25 feet

830
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:26,830
in diameter and we used to go there is

831
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:29,110
when I was a kid and it's a park and you

832
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:32,170
go in there and I just remember being

833
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:35,310
there probably eight nine years old

834
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:38,400
seeing these big potholes and wondering

835
00:43:43,650 --> 00:43:42,310
what what's the story here I mean how do

836
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:43,660
you get how do you get an 80 foot

837
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:46,510
pothole drilled into bedrock right

838
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:48,070
that's an interesting question and it's

839
00:43:52,290 --> 00:43:50,470
a question that I now know the answer to

840
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,300
but and didn't know the answer to for

841
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,880
four decades after that but it was those

842
00:43:59,130 --> 00:43:57,280
kinds of things that were kind of just

843
00:44:01,710 --> 00:43:59,140
stayed in the back of my mind

844
00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:01,720
you know we grew up on a lake and that

845
00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:03,880
lake was a cattle lake which is a type

846
00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:06,030
of Lake that's left over after the

847
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:08,620
retreat of the great ice sheets this was

848
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:11,710
in Minnesota obviously not Louisiana and

849
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,890
so living on this lake you know and

850
00:44:19,850 --> 00:44:17,200
being surrounded by a landscape that had

851
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:19,860
been totally sculpted by the the

852
00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:22,150
presence of these great glaciers in

853
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:25,270
their retreat it somehow made an

854
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:28,210
impression on me that just I came away

855
00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:30,370
with this sort of intuitive sense by the

856
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:34,120
time I was probably adolescent age that

857
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:36,310
there was meaning in that landscape

858
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:39,370
there was a story or a narrative in the

859
00:44:43,830 --> 00:44:42,010
landscape and of course it wasn't really

860
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:43,840
probably until two decades later that I

861
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,030
really began to understand that yeah

862
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:48,400
there literally is you know the the

863
00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:50,140
landscape of the whole planet in fact

864
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:53,800
has been shaped by these great events in

865
00:44:59,070 --> 00:44:56,500
some places more spectacularly than

866
00:45:01,770 --> 00:44:59,080
others and of course you know the late

867
00:45:04,860 --> 00:45:01,780
60s came along and I was you know right

868
00:45:09,140 --> 00:45:04,870
of prime age during all of that late 60s

869
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,150
and early 70s and that led me to Oh

870
00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:12,160
living in a say living in a lean-to up

871
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:14,260
in the Rocky Mountains at 11,000 feet

872
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:17,110
for three months and just sitting up

873
00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:19,300
there contemplating the nature of the

874
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:22,630
Continental Divide and trying to

875
00:45:28,590 --> 00:45:25,330
understand really what process has led

876
00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:28,600
to this situation in which I find myself

877
00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:31,000
sitting on this you know on this Ridge

878
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:33,790
on these mountains you know basically

879
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:36,370
right up in central Colorado right on

880
00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:39,610
the Continental Divide and and I came

881
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:41,590
away from that I think just really

882
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,800
curious about yeah again the sense that

883
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:47,440
there was some kind of story within the

884
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:50,950
landscape waiting to unfold and so it

885
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:52,690
was this kind of a thing that has sort

886
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:55,230
of been in the back of my consciousness

887
00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:58,090
ever since you know my teenage years but

888
00:46:01,620 --> 00:45:59,770
it wasn't until I would say I was

889
00:46:04,290 --> 00:46:01,630
probably in my late 20s that I really

890
00:46:08,010 --> 00:46:04,300
began to go okay I'm going to study the

891
00:46:10,670 --> 00:46:08,020
sciences and try to gain access to the

892
00:46:13,019 --> 00:46:10,680
knowledge I need to make sense of this

893
00:46:16,289 --> 00:46:13,029
this intimation I

894
00:46:20,569 --> 00:46:16,299
there is this story in the landscape

895
00:46:23,549 --> 00:46:20,579
that has not yet been deciphered so I

896
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:23,559
began more formal studies enrolled in

897
00:46:27,659 --> 00:46:26,140
college and major in geology took a lot

898
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:27,669
of astronomy and math and history

899
00:46:34,859 --> 00:46:31,119
courses so that I could begin to see

900
00:46:37,799 --> 00:46:34,869
that you know I think what what came out

901
00:46:39,899 --> 00:46:37,809
was of that was the realization that the

902
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:39,909
terrestrial realm and the celestial

903
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,130
realm that there was not a clear

904
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:44,319
division between them that that the

905
00:46:49,499 --> 00:46:46,150
celestial realm had a much bigger role

906
00:46:52,169 --> 00:46:49,509
to play in the shaping of the world here

907
00:46:53,999 --> 00:46:52,179
below and that sort of has been

908
00:46:55,949 --> 00:46:54,009
confirmed you know by the last thirty

909
00:46:58,799 --> 00:46:55,959
years of research as we realized the

910
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,809
multiple ways that the earth and the

911
00:47:02,999 --> 00:47:01,359
cosmos interact with each other but this

912
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:03,009
was something that that our ancestors

913
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,380
were well aware of and they encoded that

914
00:47:09,749 --> 00:47:07,119
in to their mythology and to their

915
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:09,759
architecture into their symbology into

916
00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:13,209
their art and so the other aspect of

917
00:47:19,049 --> 00:47:15,579
this was you know early on getting a

918
00:47:21,899 --> 00:47:19,059
love of mythology starting with Greek

919
00:47:24,179 --> 00:47:21,909
and Scandinavian mythology

920
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:24,189
I was just thoroughly entranced by the

921
00:47:30,659 --> 00:47:28,209
stories from the mythical records and

922
00:47:33,269 --> 00:47:30,669
mythical archives the story of Ragnarok

923
00:47:35,909 --> 00:47:33,279
and and the the Battle of the Gods and

924
00:47:38,009 --> 00:47:35,919
the Giants just really affected me when

925
00:47:39,870 --> 00:47:38,019
I was 9 and 10 years old is this when I

926
00:47:41,789 --> 00:47:39,880
first learned how to read this was some

927
00:47:44,429 --> 00:47:41,799
of the stuff that I got really absorbed

928
00:47:47,549 --> 00:47:44,439
and later on I came to realize that

929
00:47:51,449 --> 00:47:47,559
underneath all that mythic imagery was

930
00:47:54,269 --> 00:47:51,459
actual real world phenomena and that had

931
00:47:56,909 --> 00:47:54,279
been encoded into the symbology the

932
00:47:58,949 --> 00:47:56,919
archetypal symbology of the myths that

933
00:48:02,279 --> 00:47:58,959
have come down to us from many venues

934
00:48:05,759 --> 00:48:02,289
all over the world so I can't really put

935
00:48:07,859 --> 00:48:05,769
my finger on any specific point where it

936
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:07,869
all gelled I will say that I've said

937
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:09,729
this before there was one day I actually

938
00:48:15,209 --> 00:48:12,880
can pinpoint when it was the summer

939
00:48:18,509 --> 00:48:15,219
early summer 1969 it was a very

940
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:18,519
beautiful day and there was a place

941
00:48:23,849 --> 00:48:21,729
called Flying Cloud Airport south east

942
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,859
of Minneapolis and it was on bluffs

943
00:48:28,610 --> 00:48:26,400
overlooking the Minnesota River Valley

944
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:28,620
and there was a concert out there one

945
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:30,810
Saturday or Sunday free they used to

946
00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:32,370
have free concerts out there and I would

947
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:35,190
go out there and and enjoy the music and

948
00:48:39,790 --> 00:48:36,660
one day I guess it was a break in the

949
00:48:42,590 --> 00:48:39,800
music I wandered away from the from the

950
00:48:44,330 --> 00:48:42,600
area where the the audience was gathered

951
00:48:47,530 --> 00:48:44,340
and I wandered probably two three four

952
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:47,540
hundred yards over to this to the

953
00:48:52,220 --> 00:48:50,130
perimeter of these Bluffs that looked

954
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:52,230
down over the Minnesota River Valley and

955
00:48:56,780 --> 00:48:54,210
I remember standing there for a long

956
00:48:58,340 --> 00:48:56,790
time during this break into music just

957
00:49:01,010 --> 00:48:58,350
looking out over the valley and this is

958
00:49:02,780 --> 00:49:01,020
what I saw on the far side of the valley

959
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:02,790
which I now know was about four miles

960
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:05,700
distant I saw set of Bluffs that were

961
00:49:10,070 --> 00:49:07,890
sort of the matching set of Bluffs that

962
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:10,080
I was standing on right I'm looking to

963
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:12,450
the south because here the river is

964
00:49:18,770 --> 00:49:15,180
running east to west down below I see

965
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:18,780
the little the ribbon of the modern

966
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,500
Minnesota River and it's minuscule

967
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:25,020
obviously compared to this big channel

968
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:28,110
it's four miles wide yet it had the same

969
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:29,490
appearance I could see that there were

970
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:31,890
Bluffs on either side of the Minnesota

971
00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:34,200
River which is you know not a Little

972
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,880
River it's it's a medium-sized River

973
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:38,000
it's a it's got a healthy flow but I

974
00:49:44,180 --> 00:49:40,470
remember seeing that and getting this

975
00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:44,190
sense that I was looking at a bigger a

976
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:48,030
giant version of what I was seeing in

977
00:49:52,070 --> 00:49:50,580
terms of the the river below when I was

978
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:52,080
looking at the banks and seeing those

979
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:53,880
banks how they correspond it to these

980
00:50:01,460 --> 00:49:57,060
two bluffs and I thought is it possible

981
00:50:03,530 --> 00:50:01,470
that this is a giant river valley and

982
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,540
that was just again one of those things

983
00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:05,280
stuck in the back of my craw well right

984
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:08,790
but ten years eleven years later I had

985
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:11,010
started studying geometry I've been

986
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:13,020
because as a builder I got very

987
00:50:18,350 --> 00:50:15,240
interested in geometry and architecture

988
00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:18,360
and how other cultures and ancient

989
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:20,280
peoples how they build things how they

990
00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:23,580
design things so as I was getting into

991
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:26,180
all of that I kept running across this

992
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:29,970
same patterns of symbology and and

993
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:32,610
meaning encoded in ancient structures

994
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:33,510
all over the world

995
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:36,390
and one of the things that I that I

996
00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:38,390
realized as I began to study the

997
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,230
methodology behind

998
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:42,000
the building of the Gothic cathedrals

999
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:45,180
the building of the Mayan structures and

1000
00:50:50,539 --> 00:50:46,890
how they laid out their cities and their

1001
00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:50,549
temples the Greek temples the systems of

1002
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:52,859
geometry they used was that there was

1003
00:50:58,720 --> 00:50:55,470
this there is a principle called scale

1004
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,730
invariance now what that means is in

1005
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:01,200
architecture it means that the part

1006
00:51:05,089 --> 00:51:03,089
reflects the whole that there's a

1007
00:51:07,069 --> 00:51:05,099
proportional constant between

1008
00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:07,079
the piece of the thing and the whole of

1009
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:08,940
the thing right and this this is the

1010
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:11,250
basis of harmony in architecture and art

1011
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:15,960
is this this this method of linking the

1012
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,609
whole with the part because there's this

1013
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:20,160
constant of proportionality there what

1014
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:21,839
that means is that if you took the part

1015
00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:25,410
and you enlarge it you blew it up it

1016
00:51:29,299 --> 00:51:27,390
could read it could duplicate the

1017
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:29,309
pattern or the geometry or the

1018
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:31,470
proportions of the whole right this is

1019
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:34,049
scale invariance so that no matter what

1020
00:51:39,319 --> 00:51:36,329
scale you're looking at it's the same

1021
00:51:41,690 --> 00:51:39,329
idea behind fractals is it regardless of

1022
00:51:42,260 --> 00:51:41,700
the scale the pattern appears the same

1023
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:42,270
right

1024
00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:45,839
well this principle is also very

1025
00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:48,660
important in geology in particular in

1026
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,480
particularly in fluvial geomorphology

1027
00:51:55,309 --> 00:51:53,280
which looks at the patterns of

1028
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:55,319
landscapes that are created and sculpted

1029
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:58,680
by water right so the principle of scale

1030
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,760
and variance I discovered was in

1031
00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:04,319
embedded in the principles of ancient

1032
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,020
architectural design right well it's

1033
00:52:11,180 --> 00:52:08,880
also embedded in the natural world

1034
00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:11,190
because I'll give you a practical

1035
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,319
example anybody can pick up a textbook

1036
00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:15,599
on geology right you open it up and you

1037
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:17,400
start looking at the photographs you'll

1038
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:20,190
always see something in the photograph

1039
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:22,500
it might be a person standing there it

1040
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,500
might be a pic it's placed in there

1041
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:28,319
might be the geologist hat place but

1042
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,690
there's something put in the picture for

1043
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:33,119
scale right because if you take that out

1044
00:52:36,740 --> 00:52:34,920
you go wait a second am I looking at a

1045
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:36,750
rock outcrop here that's three feet high

1046
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:39,839
or 300 feet high hmm you don't know that

1047
00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:43,650
scale invariance so I was actually I

1048
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:46,799
think it was 1979 1980 I was giving a

1049
00:52:53,059 --> 00:52:50,329
lecture on on the principles of

1050
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:53,069
architecture as I had understood them at

1051
00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:53,970
that time and how

1052
00:53:00,320 --> 00:52:56,430
this concept of scale and variance was

1053
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:00,330
so important in in so many examples of

1054
00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:03,420
ancient architecture right so then I

1055
00:53:08,839 --> 00:53:06,990
cited as an example to show comparison

1056
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:08,849
well yes so just as we have scale

1057
00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:11,450
invariance in architecture in ancient

1058
00:53:17,570 --> 00:53:14,220
principles of design and art we also

1059
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:17,580
have it in geology and I cited the

1060
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:20,810
example of standing on the bluffs

1061
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:22,890
looking out at the Minnesota River

1062
00:53:28,339 --> 00:53:26,010
Valley seeing this giant channel in

1063
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,349
thinking that the giant channel and the

1064
00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:30,480
small channel that the modern Minnesota

1065
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:33,030
River flowed in were was an example of

1066
00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:35,310
scale and variance and that just as the

1067
00:53:40,970 --> 00:53:39,000
small river with two banks there was a

1068
00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:40,980
giant River and I basically explained

1069
00:53:46,609 --> 00:53:42,390
this and there was a guy in the audience

1070
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:46,619
who had had a degree in geology and he

1071
00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:48,270
stood up or raised his hand or whatever

1072
00:53:52,339 --> 00:53:50,040
and he challenged me and said no no no

1073
00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:52,349
no no we know that those are formed over

1074
00:53:58,609 --> 00:53:54,990
millions of years of erosion brother and

1075
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:58,619
I I was like well I have to think his

1076
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:01,440
name was John I said well John I I'm you

1077
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:03,330
know I'm reasonably confident that I'm

1078
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:07,050
right here but I couldn't really defend

1079
00:54:13,339 --> 00:54:09,690
why I knew I was right I just had such a

1080
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:13,349
strong instinctive sense that that I was

1081
00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:15,240
right but what it did it pissed me off

1082
00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:17,550
enough that I actually went and enrolled

1083
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:20,099
in a formal geology course and began

1084
00:54:26,990 --> 00:54:22,950
studying geology really formally and and

1085
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:27,000
and of course now later on I realized of

1086
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:28,890
course that I was right and he was wrong

1087
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:31,530
and in fact geologists had made a study

1088
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:33,290
of that and they called it River Warren

1089
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:36,210
and it was caused by the outburst of

1090
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:38,670
glacial Lake Agassiz which was a pro

1091
00:54:44,270 --> 00:54:41,970
glacial lake which busted out if anybody

1092
00:54:46,820 --> 00:54:44,280
looks at a map of Minnesota you'll see

1093
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:46,830
on the western boundary of Minnesota

1094
00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:49,650
there's a bump this bump about halfway

1095
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:53,160
up that bump was the Chandler was

1096
00:54:58,190 --> 00:54:55,050
initially cut by the draining of this

1097
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,200
gigantic Pro glacial Lake and when that

1098
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:00,960
water drained down it cut the Minnesota

1099
00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:03,089
River Valley and created what the

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00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:06,180
geologists who have studied it glacial

1101
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:07,740
River Warren

1102
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:10,320
their estimated peak discharge puts it

1103
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:14,250
at 4,000 times greater than the modern

1104
00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,500
flood stage of the Minnesota River can

1105
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:18,780
you know this is all we gotta take a

1106
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:20,910
break right here but this is what this

1107
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:24,180
is when I think about this is the

1108
00:55:31,540 --> 00:55:27,890
violence right can you imagine how crazy

1109
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:31,550
violent it was when it was going down

1110
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:34,410
that's what I do Jimmy I imagine that

1111
00:55:39,830 --> 00:55:37,410
yeah and I've got to take a break right

1112
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:39,840
here but two points I want to go back

1113
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:45,810
and address with you one I had it was an

1114
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:48,960
eighth grade I had a teacher make this

1115
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,150
quick I to teach her Indiana history was

1116
00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:54,240
the class and imagined this he was

1117
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:56,550
probably 60 years old you know I'm just

1118
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,290
a little kid in the middle of the 70s

1119
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:00,240
and he goes now

1120
00:56:07,070 --> 00:56:03,660
Indiana is flat until Brown County where

1121
00:56:10,580 --> 00:56:07,080
the hill start because above you was two

1122
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:10,590
miles of ice right that that fine I just

1123
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,850
he he changed my life Randall I had to

1124
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:17,520
sit there and think about two miles of

1125
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:21,330
ice above my head Indianapolis there was

1126
00:56:27,859 --> 00:56:24,570
that and then just like you and then

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:27,869
when I was about 21 years old I went out

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00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:30,930
to the desert with a friend here in

1129
00:56:35,090 --> 00:56:32,609
Southern California and he looks really

1130
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:35,100
ghosts now see all of those see of all

1131
00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:38,720
of those Peaks around us those were all

1132
00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:42,150
islands at one point this was all water

1133
00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:45,950
and up there you know and I I just

1134
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:49,230
visualized that for a second and you

1135
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:51,660
drive around the United States and you

1136
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:53,369
go through New Mexico or you go through

1137
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:55,310
these parts where you see all of these

1138
00:57:03,859 --> 00:56:59,130
all of this geology and you realize that

1139
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,869
at one point those were Islands you know

1140
00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:05,760
just like in Minnesota where you're

1141
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:08,040
talking about there too as well it's a

1142
00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:10,380
crazy world that we live in and to go

1143
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:12,540
back and contemplate it instead of

1144
00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:14,460
ignoring it I think that is one of the

1145
00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:16,230
coolest things that we can do is go back

1146
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:18,760
in and figure out why because

1147
00:57:26,450 --> 00:57:20,760
it was a violent change at one point

1148
00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:26,460
violent life-changing cataclysmic events

1149
00:57:31,350 --> 00:57:28,300
absolutely yeah

1150
00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:31,360
you can't exaggerate it at all you can't

1151
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:33,340
the violence was must have been

1152
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:34,810
incredible let's take a break right here

1153
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:37,690
and and I just think about the melting

1154
00:57:44,730 --> 00:57:41,230
ice and and those changes those glaciers

1155
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,740
went somewhere and when they Randall

1156
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:46,960
when they went somewhere something else

1157
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:51,010
disappeared that's a crazy crazy concept

1158
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:52,510
this is fade to black our guest tonight

1159
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:54,850
Randall Carlson tonight is the

1160
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:56,770
conversation I'm your host Jimmy Church

1161
00:58:00,780 --> 00:57:58,570
we're gonna pick up where we left off

1162
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:00,790
when we come back our guest is Randall

1163
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:02,260
Carlson stay with us

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1255
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:42,290
welcome back fade to black coming out to

1256
01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:45,540
me Church you can follow me on twitter @

1257
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geometry International I think it's int

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it's right there on Twitter talking

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about everything tonight and Randall I

1261
01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:01,200
want to pick up what we left off and

1262
01:03:06,940 --> 01:03:03,150
kind of dovetail into two different

1263
01:03:11,060 --> 01:03:06,950
subjects and into this next segment and

1264
01:03:15,579 --> 01:03:11,070
one of them is this I want to start here

1265
01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:15,589
why is it that and this is your opinion

1266
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:19,470
why is it that North America and this

1267
01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:21,599
continent you can even include South

1268
01:03:27,170 --> 01:03:24,510
America but North America is ignored

1269
01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:27,180
when it comes to ancient history in

1270
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history everybody else is concerned with

1271
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everything else on this planet but

1272
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nobody wants to talk about us

1273
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:38,510
but you why is that well I dare to say

1274
01:03:43,609 --> 01:03:41,609
not only me but Graham's new book coming

1275
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out Graham Hancock's new book is America

1276
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before and so he is trying to address

1277
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that deficiency as we speak and I think

1278
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his new book will go a long way towards

1279
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that so I want to definitely throw out

1280
01:03:57,559 --> 01:03:54,720
an endorsement for that but it's a very

1281
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:57,569
good question and one of the reasons I

1282
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:00,480
think that that occurs are you there I'm

1283
01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:02,160
here I'm listening to you okay

1284
01:04:07,130 --> 01:04:03,660
yeah sounded like my line went dead for

1285
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:07,140
a second okay sorry deep here's the

1286
01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:08,910
thing if we look at the trend of modern

1287
01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:11,220
history we kind of see that civilization

1288
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:13,500
kind of branches out from certain

1289
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:16,050
epicenters you know the Middle East

1290
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:18,540
being one of the the big ones earlier

1291
01:04:22,910 --> 01:04:20,010
than that you know the east central

1292
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,920
highlands of Africa being another zone

1293
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:24,960
where it appears that you know hominid

1294
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:28,079
species branched out we don't see such a

1295
01:04:33,290 --> 01:04:30,210
thing in North America North America was

1296
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:33,300
called the new world right because it

1297
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:36,089
was being rediscovered well that whole

1298
01:04:41,569 --> 01:04:39,060
paradigm is being completely overturned

1299
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:41,579
because we're realizing that the story

1300
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:43,650
of what went on here goes back much much

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:46,710
further on you know last fall I had the

1302
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:48,690
opportunity to spend a couple of days

1303
01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:51,690
with Albert Goodyear who is the lead

1304
01:04:56,260 --> 01:04:53,790
archaeologist on the topper site

1305
01:04:58,610 --> 01:04:56,270
which is right along the savannah river

1306
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that separates North and South Carolina

1307
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:00,930
or actually separates Georgia from South

1308
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:04,650
Carolina right right and very

1309
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interesting what was going on there you

1310
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:09,110
know he was a one of the principal art

1311
01:05:13,550 --> 01:05:11,970
archaeologists looking at the Clovis the

1312
01:05:15,860 --> 01:05:13,560
evidence for the Clovis culture you know

1313
01:05:19,550 --> 01:05:15,870
which was this short-lived culture that

1314
01:05:21,380 --> 01:05:19,560
appeared very suddenly around thirteen

1315
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:21,390
thousand four hundred to thirteen

1316
01:05:28,330 --> 01:05:24,090
thousand five hundred years ago were

1317
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:28,340
very prominent left a very prolific

1318
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:30,570
archaeological record in terms of their

1319
01:05:36,820 --> 01:05:33,690
their debe ties their toolkits their

1320
01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:36,830
their spear points and so on and then

1321
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:39,480
and suddenly as they appeared they

1322
01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:41,310
disappeared right around twelve thousand

1323
01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:43,380
nine hundred years ago quarries that had

1324
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been actively mined for a half a

1325
01:05:52,310 --> 01:05:49,530
millennium were suddenly abandoned you

1326
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:52,320
know village sites community sites where

1327
01:05:57,970 --> 01:05:55,310
they had lived were suddenly abandoned

1328
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:57,980
radiocarbon dating shows that the

1329
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:00,720
organic evidence of their presence all

1330
01:06:04,790 --> 01:06:02,760
suddenly just ceases right around twelve

1331
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,800
thousand nine hundred now for a long

1332
01:06:10,820 --> 01:06:07,680
time Clovis was considered to be and it

1333
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:10,830
was assumed to be the oldest culture in

1334
01:06:16,190 --> 01:06:14,160
North America in the traditional concept

1335
01:06:18,110 --> 01:06:16,200
was that they emigrated across the

1336
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:18,120
bering land bridge which connected

1337
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:20,730
siberia to alaska when sea levels were

1338
01:06:27,260 --> 01:06:24,570
lowered and before they rose and and

1339
01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:27,270
drowned the land bridge which was an

1340
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:31,470
enormous lee huge tract of land people

1341
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:34,650
don't realize that North America and

1342
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:38,010
North East Asia were essentially one

1343
01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:41,490
landmass the Bering Land Bridge was

1344
01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:43,980
actually larger in area than the state

1345
01:06:49,610 --> 01:06:46,860
of Alaska so you know it's just it's

1346
01:06:51,530 --> 01:06:49,620
difficult to kind of comprehend that you

1347
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:51,540
know North America and Asia were a

1348
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:53,640
single landmass but they were during

1349
01:06:58,670 --> 01:06:56,160
whenever the ice grew and sea levels

1350
01:07:02,330 --> 01:06:58,680
dropped you know it exposed enormous

1351
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:02,340
swaths of land along the peripheries of

1352
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:05,940
the continents and in the case of the

1353
01:07:11,089 --> 01:07:08,010
continental shelves between

1354
01:07:13,490 --> 01:07:11,099
Alaska and Siberia it was vast enough

1355
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:13,500
that it created this it exposed this

1356
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:16,770
whole landscape that is now underwater

1357
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:20,130
that's essentially now extinct but the

1358
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:22,740
idea was that the Clovis people came

1359
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:26,000
across during some interval when the ice

1360
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,470
ameliorated enough that there was an

1361
01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:30,720
ice-free corridor not yet if you look at

1362
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:33,720
a map of North America you had basically

1363
01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:35,730
two if I'm going to try to describe this

1364
01:07:40,010 --> 01:07:37,830
so that those who are listening can try

1365
01:07:41,660 --> 01:07:40,020
to get the picture you had two great ice

1366
01:07:44,330 --> 01:07:41,670
sheets over North America the biggest

1367
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:44,340
one was centered more or less on Hudson

1368
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:46,500
Bay and this is the one that reached up

1369
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:48,960
to two miles in thickness and it was

1370
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:51,030
called the Laurentide Ice Sheet and it

1371
01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:53,220
extended it's the one that extended down

1372
01:07:59,420 --> 01:07:57,000
into Indiana Ohio Illinois Minnesota and

1373
01:08:02,240 --> 01:07:59,430
it extended West all the way to Alberta

1374
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:02,250
now you had a second ice sheet now I'll

1375
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:03,900
say that the Laurentide ice sheet was

1376
01:08:08,570 --> 01:08:07,170
about the size of the Antarctic Ice

1377
01:08:11,089 --> 01:08:08,580
Sheet that now swaddles

1378
01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:11,099
the South Pole then you had the

1379
01:08:17,690 --> 01:08:13,950
Cordilleran ice sheet which which

1380
01:08:20,059 --> 01:08:17,700
flanked over the top of the Canadian

1381
01:08:23,180 --> 01:08:20,069
Rockies it was about in reached from

1382
01:08:25,999 --> 01:08:23,190
northern Washington state up to Alaska

1383
01:08:28,010 --> 01:08:26,009
now it was about the size of the ice cap

1384
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:28,020
that now covers Greenland so you had

1385
01:08:33,140 --> 01:08:30,420
these two great ice sheets right at some

1386
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:33,150
point as they grew they grew together so

1387
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:35,670
there was no passageway between them but

1388
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:38,930
in other times probably somewhere around

1389
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:43,020
14,000 years ago when the cold deep cold

1390
01:08:47,690 --> 01:08:45,210
of the ice age began to ameliorate or

1391
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:47,700
soften the ice sheets might have melted

1392
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:50,100
back just enough to open up a corridor

1393
01:08:54,860 --> 01:08:52,319
between them so it was believed that the

1394
01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:54,870
Clovis people came down through this

1395
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,020
corridor and then colonized North

1396
01:09:01,970 --> 01:09:00,000
America and eventually passed through

1397
01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:01,980
Central America and colonized South

1398
01:09:06,380 --> 01:09:04,259
America and in this model of course

1399
01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,390
there should be at least some hiatus

1400
01:09:11,809 --> 01:09:09,120
between their first arrival in North

1401
01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:11,819
America and their final appearance down

1402
01:09:16,849 --> 01:09:14,040
by Tierra del Fuego at the southern tip

1403
01:09:18,519 --> 01:09:16,859
of South America right so this group was

1404
01:09:21,780 --> 01:09:18,529
called the Clovis because of their

1405
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:21,790
distinctive artifact right right

1406
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:24,100
clovis for a long time was considered to

1407
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:26,049
be the first the earliest Americans

1408
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:29,170
right so back to dr. albert goodyear and

1409
01:09:34,559 --> 01:09:32,049
the topper site okay so he's excavating

1410
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:34,569
a site which is one of many of about

1411
01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:36,790
fifty clovis sites that are now known

1412
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:40,620
around north america and and north

1413
01:09:46,710 --> 01:09:44,560
mexico right so what he did and he

1414
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:46,720
explained out well for a long time he

1415
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:49,930
really never really looked below this

1416
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:52,540
Clovis horizon as you would call it now

1417
01:09:58,620 --> 01:09:55,450
at this Clovis horizon there is there's

1418
01:10:00,270 --> 01:09:58,630
a very distinct layer showing up at

1419
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:00,280
about half the Clovis sites in North

1420
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:03,610
America it's been colloquially called

1421
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:05,950
the black matte layer and I'll come back

1422
01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:09,460
to that black mysterious and important

1423
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:12,760
black matte layer because what they

1424
01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:16,060
begin to notice was that wherever these

1425
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,280
bled Clovis sites were and you had this

1426
01:10:23,610 --> 01:10:21,280
black matte layer below that black matte

1427
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:23,620
layer you would find Clovis artifacts

1428
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:27,280
but never above it so this became the

1429
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:30,130
Clovis horizon well as further research

1430
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:31,560
went on two other very interesting

1431
01:10:37,290 --> 01:10:34,330
correlations showed up one was there was

1432
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:37,300
a massive climate spasm that occurred

1433
01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:40,210
precisely at the date of that black

1434
01:10:46,380 --> 01:10:43,480
matte layer that climate spasm is called

1435
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:46,390
the younger driest boundary or there was

1436
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:49,570
actually the pre boreal which was the

1437
01:10:53,870 --> 01:10:51,550
previous section that's the name of it

1438
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:53,880
younger driest no I'm sorry not back up

1439
01:10:59,280 --> 01:10:56,770
balling allarod the balling allarod was

1440
01:11:03,390 --> 01:10:59,290
a period into towards the end of the Ice

1441
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:03,400
Age when due to primarily astronomical

1442
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:07,090
influences that deep cold of the Ice Age

1443
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:09,640
begin to soften and it was this time

1444
01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:11,920
that the ice began to shrink back well

1445
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:13,780
this had been going on for a couple of

1446
01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:15,610
thousand years so this was that period

1447
01:11:20,660 --> 01:11:17,800
of time when they were speculating that

1448
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:20,670
that ice cream corridor opened up well

1449
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:23,500
what happened was is right at the end of

1450
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:25,810
this couple of thousand years of gradual

1451
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,270
warming that warming was suddenly

1452
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:30,640
interrupted at the Bolling a lurid

1453
01:11:34,860 --> 01:11:33,340
Younger Dryas boundary which was dated

1454
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:34,870
at twelve thousand nine hundred years

1455
01:11:38,970 --> 01:11:35,650
ago and

1456
01:11:42,660 --> 01:11:38,980
was a massive rapid almost catastrophic

1457
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:42,670
shift back into full glacial cold after

1458
01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:44,590
two to three thousand years of warming

1459
01:11:52,050 --> 01:11:48,760
right now that climate spasm coincided

1460
01:11:54,330 --> 01:11:52,060
precisely with this black matte layer

1461
01:11:56,850 --> 01:11:54,340
that marked the end of the Clovis

1462
01:11:59,550 --> 01:11:56,860
culture the other thing that correlated

1463
01:12:02,370 --> 01:11:59,560
with that was the fact that the great

1464
01:12:04,260 --> 01:12:02,380
megafauna that inhabited North America

1465
01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:04,270
for tens and for hundreds of thousands

1466
01:12:10,050 --> 01:12:07,300
of years it basically disappeared in an

1467
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:10,060
eyeblink most of that disappearance

1468
01:12:15,450 --> 01:12:13,600
occurred right at that same boundary so

1469
01:12:18,620 --> 01:12:15,460
that typically they were finding the

1470
01:12:22,410 --> 01:12:18,630
remains of the extinct megafauna below

1471
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:22,420
the black mat but not above it that's of

1472
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:25,480
the book not the black mat is dated at

1473
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:28,030
that magical number right ten thousand

1474
01:12:35,459 --> 01:12:32,610
five hundred ten thousand 900 BC yes

1475
01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:35,469
actually right that's exactly right now

1476
01:12:39,419 --> 01:12:37,540
this is an important date yes it is

1477
01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:39,429
we'll come back to that date oh yes very

1478
01:12:43,709 --> 01:12:42,070
important thank you it links links a lot

1479
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:43,719
of things together

1480
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:46,480
so anyways back to Albert Goodyear

1481
01:12:50,459 --> 01:12:48,489
with with this as a context I hope that

1482
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:50,469
people didn't think I was just rambling

1483
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:52,120
on I'm gonna get back to Albert Goodyear

1484
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:54,610
in the topper site so he had been

1485
01:12:59,250 --> 01:12:56,290
studying the Clovis culture and it never

1486
01:13:00,510 --> 01:12:59,260
bothered to look beneath it right now at

1487
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:00,520
the topper cited think that if I

1488
01:13:06,030 --> 01:13:02,010
remember right the Clovis culture

1489
01:13:08,669 --> 01:13:06,040
horizon there also at the topper site

1490
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,679
along the Savannah River the black matte

1491
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:10,480
layer doesn't really show up like it

1492
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:11,830
does at some of the others like in the

1493
01:13:18,330 --> 01:13:13,810
southwest where it shows up real

1494
01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:18,340
conspicuously so anyways he said well

1495
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:20,260
people kept asking him or what was below

1496
01:13:23,010 --> 01:13:21,850
it what was below it what was below it

1497
01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:23,020
and he said well he never bothered to

1498
01:13:26,729 --> 01:13:24,340
look because the assumption was that

1499
01:13:28,979 --> 01:13:26,739
there was nothing below it but then he

1500
01:13:31,770 --> 01:13:28,989
finally decided okay I just I'm gonna

1501
01:13:35,419 --> 01:13:31,780
take a look so he they dug down they

1502
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:35,429
excavated about six feet down below the

1503
01:13:40,169 --> 01:13:38,050
Clovis layer and what do you think they

1504
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:40,179
discovered they discovered more evidence

1505
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:42,130
of cultural occupation they discovered

1506
01:13:49,260 --> 01:13:45,850
more fragments of tools of human

1507
01:13:54,830 --> 01:13:49,270
occupation that predated Clovis

1508
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:54,840
predated clovis by nearly 40,000 years

1509
01:14:02,120 --> 01:13:57,610
now that's not the only site that's now

1510
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:02,130
showing up evidence of much much earlier

1511
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,350
occupation of North America but see this

1512
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,600
gets us back to your question see here's

1513
01:14:12,210 --> 01:14:10,000
the thing you've got a picture laughs

1514
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:12,220
around twelve thousand nine hundred year

1515
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,810
center I'll say centered on twelve

1516
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:15,760
thousand nine hundred years ago there

1517
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:18,880
were a series of massive earth-shaking

1518
01:14:25,190 --> 01:14:22,210
convulsions that jerked the planet out

1519
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:25,200
of the deep freeze of the Ice Age and

1520
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:28,270
eliminated six or seven million cubic

1521
01:14:34,020 --> 01:14:30,730
miles of glacial ice off the continental

1522
01:14:36,990 --> 01:14:34,030
surfaces melted it rapidly returned it

1523
01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:37,000
into the ocean basins causing rapid sea

1524
01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:39,880
level rise and we still to this day

1525
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:43,150
don't really understand what happened or

1526
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:44,950
what was the sequence of events although

1527
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:47,530
we're getting closer to understanding

1528
01:14:51,770 --> 01:14:49,690
because of things like that black mat

1529
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:51,780
layer and the mysteries that it reveals

1530
01:14:57,810 --> 01:14:55,360
but the thing is is that here's what

1531
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,820
you've got to understand when this

1532
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:00,000
planet underwent the series of

1533
01:15:05,580 --> 01:15:03,220
catastrophes that brought the brought it

1534
01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:05,590
out of the Ice Age the epicentre of

1535
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:09,790
those catastrophes was North America so

1536
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:11,350
you got to let that sink in North

1537
01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:13,570
America for example lost the greatest

1538
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:16,270
percentage of megafauna species South

1539
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:19,270
America was very close behind but you

1540
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:23,290
see when you say when you think Jimmy

1541
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:25,570
when you say elephants today what do you

1542
01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:27,520
think of what place on earth do you

1543
01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:29,260
think of when you say elephant I think

1544
01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:34,720
of Africa Africa yes or if you might

1545
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:36,760
even think of Indian yes yes

1546
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:39,690
if we go back fifteen thousand years ago

1547
01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:42,250
now all elephants are called the

1548
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:44,230
scientific term for elephants is Provo

1549
01:15:48,990 --> 01:15:46,090
city ins because of their long snow

1550
01:15:51,570 --> 01:15:49,000
right if we go back into the Ice Age

1551
01:15:51,930 --> 01:15:51,580
there were four species of Provo city

1552
01:15:54,570 --> 01:15:51,940
ins

1553
01:15:58,410 --> 01:15:54,580
or elephants that lived in North America

1554
01:16:00,570 --> 01:15:58,420
so that's very bizarre when you start

1555
01:16:02,430 --> 01:16:00,580
thinking about it you know you had three

1556
01:16:03,180 --> 01:16:02,440
species of mammoths he had the woolly

1557
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:03,190
mammoth the

1558
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:04,600
being mammoth and mammoth it's

1559
01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:08,710
imperatore and you had met the mastodons

1560
01:16:14,939 --> 01:16:11,830
and mammoth americana which was the

1561
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,949
mastodons so all four species went

1562
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:16,960
totally extinct right around the same

1563
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:20,980
exact time so if you look at the loss of

1564
01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:22,510
species and bear this in mind when

1565
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:25,000
you're looking at species loss you're

1566
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:28,320
basically looking at habitat loss if in

1567
01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:31,810
certainly in the case of a let's say for

1568
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:35,020
example a large volcanic eruption might

1569
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:36,850
completely devastate everything in the

1570
01:16:41,729 --> 01:16:39,730
in the immediate region and whatever

1571
01:16:43,709 --> 01:16:41,739
animals might live there get completely

1572
01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:43,719
wiped out if it's on an island you may

1573
01:16:48,959 --> 01:16:46,120
have a case where all of the species of

1574
01:16:52,890 --> 01:16:48,969
that I of that animal on that island are

1575
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:52,900
destroyed right well bear in mind that

1576
01:16:58,919 --> 01:16:55,810
for a species to go extinct you pretty

1577
01:17:01,680 --> 01:16:58,929
much have to you have to kill off every

1578
01:17:05,250 --> 01:17:01,690
single individual of that species think

1579
01:17:06,959 --> 01:17:05,260
about the American bison going back to

1580
01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:06,969
the turn of the century there was only a

1581
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:11,260
few hundred bison left alive the species

1582
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:13,810
came as close to extinction as you could

1583
01:17:20,610 --> 01:17:16,210
possibly go without actually becoming

1584
01:17:22,350 --> 01:17:20,620
extinct and then due to the to the you

1585
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:22,360
know the involvement of some farsighted

1586
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:24,880
individuals the species was saved it was

1587
01:17:28,379 --> 01:17:26,560
recovered and now of course you can go

1588
01:17:31,290 --> 01:17:28,389
into the supermarket and buy bison

1589
01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:31,300
burger so the species has completely

1590
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:33,100
come back again not to the numbers that

1591
01:17:38,939 --> 01:17:36,480
it was once was but certainly way beyond

1592
01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:38,949
the threshold of extinction that it

1593
01:17:42,660 --> 01:17:40,840
found itself at you know just over a

1594
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:42,670
hundred years ago right now here's the

1595
01:17:46,770 --> 01:17:44,800
thing if we were to look back you know

1596
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:46,780
from a thousand or 2,000 years or

1597
01:17:51,419 --> 01:17:48,850
whatever in the future we might

1598
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:51,429
completely miss the fact that the

1599
01:17:56,340 --> 01:17:53,290
American bison came within a hair's

1600
01:17:59,520 --> 01:17:56,350
breadth of extinction and unless we

1601
01:18:02,910 --> 01:17:59,530
focused right in on that exact date of

1602
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,920
say late 18-hundreds early 1900 we

1603
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:05,920
wouldn't see it right so if but if we go

1604
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:09,130
back to 13,000 years ago what we see is

1605
01:18:15,149 --> 01:18:12,190
that half half literally half the great

1606
01:18:16,990 --> 01:18:15,159
megafauna species on earth disappeared

1607
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:17,000
within a geological eye

1608
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:20,210
link right now here to me where the

1609
01:18:25,810 --> 01:18:22,010
whole thing gets silly for many decades

1610
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:25,820
it was believed that humans human

1611
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,270
hunters were responsible for eliminating

1612
01:18:34,210 --> 01:18:31,040
for a causing the extinction of the

1613
01:18:36,250 --> 01:18:34,220
woolly mammoths right well woolly

1614
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:36,260
mammoths was one one species of Probus

1615
01:18:41,170 --> 01:18:38,810
ideon but then there were giant ground

1616
01:18:43,150 --> 01:18:41,180
sloths multiple species of giant ground

1617
01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:43,160
sloths there were giant camels there

1618
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:46,340
were horses there were giant armadillos

1619
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:48,290
there was the cave bear the giant

1620
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:50,810
short-faced bear you know the list goes

1621
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:53,570
on and on and on elk with 12-foot

1622
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:55,730
antlers spans and eight foot shoulder

1623
01:19:00,100 --> 01:18:58,010
Heights all of these animals went

1624
01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:00,110
extinct within a very short period of

1625
01:19:05,290 --> 01:19:02,300
time maybe just a few centuries or even

1626
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:05,300
less what's interesting is most of those

1627
01:19:10,930 --> 01:19:08,000
extinctions occur right up beneath that

1628
01:19:12,970 --> 01:19:10,940
black mat layer so clearly that black

1629
01:19:14,380 --> 01:19:12,980
matte layer signifies something

1630
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:14,390
important right

1631
01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:18,410
well back in 2007 Richard Firestone Alan

1632
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,820
West James Cannon and another group of

1633
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:23,840
scientists I think there's about 15 of

1634
01:19:28,330 --> 01:19:25,970
them published a paper where they had

1635
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:28,340
gone in and examined the black mat layer

1636
01:19:32,650 --> 01:19:31,130
and what do you suppose they found what

1637
01:19:34,930 --> 01:19:32,660
they found was the fingerprints of a

1638
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:34,940
cosmic event they found nano diamonds

1639
01:19:40,510 --> 01:19:36,770
they found microspheres they found

1640
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:40,520
magnetic grains the and in in the

1641
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:42,290
interim since 2007

1642
01:19:50,020 --> 01:19:47,350
since the interceding 11 years multiple

1643
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:50,030
amounts of other evidence have been have

1644
01:19:55,180 --> 01:19:52,610
been found that confirms overwhelmingly

1645
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:55,190
that there's something cosmic happened

1646
01:20:00,280 --> 01:19:58,610
now exactly what it was I don't know I

1647
01:20:02,710 --> 01:20:00,290
don't think they know I don't think that

1648
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:02,720
they're willing to say definitively oh

1649
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:04,610
it was this or that because there's

1650
01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:06,590
still a lot of mysterious aspects to

1651
01:20:11,020 --> 01:20:08,450
this whole event that happened well we

1652
01:20:12,850 --> 01:20:11,030
bring wait well let me I just have to

1653
01:20:17,410 --> 01:20:12,860
ask you an answer quickly what would

1654
01:20:20,230 --> 01:20:17,420
what would add diamonds to that mix lots

1655
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:20,240
of heat and pressure tremendous man let

1656
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:21,890
me tell you where you find nano diamonds

1657
01:20:28,780 --> 01:20:24,770
you find them in nature in two places

1658
01:20:30,670 --> 01:20:28,790
you find them in meteorites and you find

1659
01:20:33,970 --> 01:20:30,680
them in confirmed in

1660
01:20:37,810 --> 01:20:33,980
in Iraq in confirmed meteorite or

1661
01:20:39,370 --> 01:20:37,820
asteroid impact craters right the other

1662
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:39,380
place where nano diamonds have been

1663
01:20:43,180 --> 01:20:42,560
found is in the testing sites of nuclear

1664
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:43,190
weapons

1665
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:45,710
hmm under the heat and pressure of a

1666
01:20:50,830 --> 01:20:47,630
nuclear weapon explosion like one

1667
01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:50,840
Megaton bomb exploding will create

1668
01:20:54,970 --> 01:20:52,310
enough heat and pressure that it

1669
01:20:57,610 --> 01:20:54,980
produces billions of these very tiny

1670
01:20:59,980 --> 01:20:57,620
nano diamonds it only show up under like

1671
01:21:03,010 --> 01:20:59,990
with electron microscopy but they're

1672
01:21:04,810 --> 01:21:03,020
extremely small and so those were the

1673
01:21:07,390 --> 01:21:04,820
three places that nano diamonds were

1674
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:07,400
known to have come from right so now

1675
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,050
what happens they find a layer of nano

1676
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:11,360
diamonds at the base of the black matte

1677
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:14,170
layer so what does that mean well it

1678
01:21:20,530 --> 01:21:17,690
obviously means some kind of some kind

1679
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:20,540
of an event that involved tremendous

1680
01:21:29,370 --> 01:21:23,090
heat tremendous pressure no I have to

1681
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:29,380
say that this idea was was attacked

1682
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:32,570
vociferously by by a group of critics

1683
01:21:38,380 --> 01:21:35,690
that appointed themselves I would think

1684
01:21:40,990 --> 01:21:38,390
as inquisitors to suppress this heresy

1685
01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:41,000
that had come along that now potentially

1686
01:21:45,630 --> 01:21:43,790
would overturn the idea that humans were

1687
01:21:48,670 --> 01:21:45,640
responsible for the mass extinction

1688
01:21:54,820 --> 01:21:48,680
because many of the proponents or the

1689
01:21:57,550 --> 01:21:54,830
the the most severe critics of a cosmic

1690
01:22:00,130 --> 01:21:57,560
event were proponents of the human

1691
01:22:02,530 --> 01:22:00,140
caused a human cause form at the mass

1692
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:02,540
extinction so they have been the ones

1693
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:04,370
who have been primarily in the forefront

1694
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:06,650
of attacking it but what has happened is

1695
01:22:11,950 --> 01:22:09,770
the original group of 15 has grown to be

1696
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:11,960
over 50 scientists internationally now

1697
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:14,810
many of them who came originally as

1698
01:22:19,870 --> 01:22:17,690
critics themselves but began to look at

1699
01:22:22,510 --> 01:22:19,880
the evidence and became converts and

1700
01:22:24,430 --> 01:22:22,520
said yes the evidence is here we see the

1701
01:22:28,030 --> 01:22:24,440
nano diamonds you know we've seen the

1702
01:22:30,430 --> 01:22:28,040
micro spiros we've now found an iridium

1703
01:22:32,380 --> 01:22:30,440
spike we found a platinum spike right at

1704
01:22:34,690 --> 01:22:32,390
twelve thousand nine hundred in the

1705
01:22:37,090 --> 01:22:34,700
Greenland ice sheet now how do you get

1706
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:37,100
all that platinum there is a really

1707
01:22:40,570 --> 01:22:38,930
interesting question but again platinum

1708
01:22:43,799 --> 01:22:40,580
is one of the platinum group metals

1709
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:43,809
along with iridium and and

1710
01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:46,510
others ruthenium and others that

1711
01:22:52,649 --> 01:22:49,329
basically is delivered to earth via a

1712
01:22:55,829 --> 01:22:52,659
cosmic source such as comets or

1713
01:22:58,500 --> 01:22:55,839
asteroids so clearly the signature of

1714
01:23:00,089 --> 01:22:58,510
something is there but what it is it's

1715
01:23:02,099 --> 01:23:00,099
like I said at this point is still

1716
01:23:04,859 --> 01:23:02,109
unclear because there's many dimensions

1717
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,869
to it and the whole I'll tell you Jimmy

1718
01:23:08,969 --> 01:23:06,639
the whole phenomena is really bizarre

1719
01:23:11,609 --> 01:23:08,979
and it's going to take a while I think

1720
01:23:14,129 --> 01:23:11,619
to really come to grips with what really

1721
01:23:15,629 --> 01:23:14,139
happened but it clearly involved some

1722
01:23:17,429 --> 01:23:15,639
kind of interaction between the earth

1723
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:17,439
and the cosmos of that there can be no

1724
01:23:23,339 --> 01:23:20,289
doubt the epicenter of this of this

1725
01:23:25,770 --> 01:23:23,349
catastrophe was North America so

1726
01:23:27,089 --> 01:23:25,780
basically what the evidence of the rapid

1727
01:23:30,449 --> 01:23:27,099
disappearance of the Clovis culture

1728
01:23:32,339 --> 01:23:30,459
would suggest is that whatever was

1729
01:23:35,579 --> 01:23:32,349
happening here culturally was pretty

1730
01:23:40,049 --> 01:23:35,589
much erased and so the next 10,000 years

1731
01:23:44,729 --> 01:23:40,059
was basically surviving populations of

1732
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:44,739
animals and societies recolonizing the

1733
01:23:51,329 --> 01:23:48,729
earth which had been basically wiped out

1734
01:23:54,299 --> 01:23:51,339
on many fronts North and South America

1735
01:23:56,189 --> 01:23:54,309
were the most severely affected North

1736
01:23:58,469 --> 01:23:56,199
America lost about three-quarters of its

1737
01:24:01,979 --> 01:23:58,479
megafauna species and South America was

1738
01:24:04,759 --> 01:24:01,989
was very close behind Eurasia lost about

1739
01:24:08,669 --> 01:24:04,769
one-third of its megafauna species

1740
01:24:12,659 --> 01:24:08,679
Africa only lost about 10% so Africa

1741
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:12,669
apparently was in a zone that was not

1742
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:15,280
severely affected as other areas because

1743
01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:18,159
most of the large animals in Africa

1744
01:24:23,459 --> 01:24:21,369
today are Pleistocene mammals so they

1745
01:24:25,559 --> 01:24:23,469
existed back during the Ice Age but

1746
01:24:28,859 --> 01:24:25,569
whereas North America and South America

1747
01:24:32,129 --> 01:24:28,869
lost their mega mammals or most of them

1748
01:24:34,679 --> 01:24:32,139
Africa preserved most of its so I think

1749
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:34,689
that clearly implies that Africa at

1750
01:24:40,879 --> 01:24:37,449
least sections of Africa were a safe

1751
01:24:43,229 --> 01:24:40,889
haven of sorts now when you look at

1752
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:43,239
megafauna species like what you see it

1753
01:24:47,489 --> 01:24:45,010
happening at the end of the last ice age

1754
01:24:49,979 --> 01:24:47,499
you basically see the top of the food

1755
01:24:52,139 --> 01:24:49,989
chain being decapitated right

1756
01:24:54,059 --> 01:24:52,149
it's the largest animals that are the

1757
01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:54,069
motion dramatically affected by these

1758
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,440
changes and that makes sense

1759
01:25:01,300 --> 01:24:59,360
when you think about the fact that a

1760
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:01,310
large animal requires a whole lot more

1761
01:25:06,340 --> 01:25:04,490
food you know if you got an elephant

1762
01:25:08,890 --> 01:25:06,350
that weighs five or six tons they need a

1763
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:08,900
whole lot more food than a rabbit

1764
01:25:16,210 --> 01:25:12,530
obviously right so if you and they also

1765
01:25:18,460 --> 01:25:16,220
have longer times that they're young is

1766
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:18,470
dependant before the young is old enough

1767
01:25:23,050 --> 01:25:20,810
to survive on its own right they also

1768
01:25:25,900 --> 01:25:23,060
have longer gestation times and longer

1769
01:25:28,450 --> 01:25:25,910
turnover times between generations so

1770
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:28,460
all of those factors are going to be

1771
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:32,000
affected by habitat loss if something

1772
01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:34,130
disrupts the food supply if there's a

1773
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:38,000
severe climate change that decimates

1774
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,010
forest species you know mastodons were

1775
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:42,560
browsers they like to browse on trees

1776
01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:44,960
and forests well the forests in the

1777
01:25:50,140 --> 01:25:47,510
south southeastern United States that

1778
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:50,150
they were browsing on 15,000 years ago

1779
01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:52,010
are the kind of forests that you now

1780
01:25:57,010 --> 01:25:54,830
find in southern Canada boreal forests

1781
01:25:59,370 --> 01:25:57,020
northern forests for us consisting of

1782
01:26:03,040 --> 01:25:59,380
spruce trees large trees alder trees

1783
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:03,050
that don't exist in the South now but

1784
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:04,550
you had a species that was adopted

1785
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:07,090
adapted to eating that kind of

1786
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:10,400
particular food and then suddenly those

1787
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:11,930
forests get completely and utterly

1788
01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:16,610
decimated which appears did happen they

1789
01:26:21,070 --> 01:26:18,350
would starve to death and only a million

1790
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:21,080
millenium or two later did we see that

1791
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:24,050
the kind of the pine dominated for us

1792
01:26:28,090 --> 01:26:25,430
that we now see in the southeast

1793
01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:28,100
beginning to show up under a completely

1794
01:26:32,590 --> 01:26:29,870
different kind of an ecosystem that

1795
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:32,600
emerged in the aftermath of the Ice Age

1796
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:35,930
we've got about two minutes so give me

1797
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:38,480
the quick answer here if you were a

1798
01:26:43,260 --> 01:26:41,930
betting man what do you think that it

1799
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:43,270
was I understand you're suggesting

1800
01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:49,250
Kosmic but what would and and what else

1801
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:53,000
could have caused it it's a it's a

1802
01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:55,520
fascinating thing what could it have

1803
01:27:01,660 --> 01:26:58,850
been it's too big of an event right it's

1804
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:01,670
not small whatever it is and it and it

1805
01:27:06,910 --> 01:27:04,370
was out it was global too as well right

1806
01:27:08,230 --> 01:27:06,920
Randall oh yeah there was I don't think

1807
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:08,240
you'd find any place on the globe that

1808
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:11,090
wasn't affected to one extent or another

1809
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:14,000
right right obviously just see sea level

1810
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:16,010
rise alone was global so no matter where

1811
01:27:20,110 --> 01:27:17,450
you lived on the earth if you were on

1812
01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:20,120
some coastline you were rapidly

1813
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:23,510
displaced by rapid sea level rise but

1814
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:26,210
you have to understand it was I think it

1815
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:28,970
was like the end of the Ice Age was a

1816
01:27:34,060 --> 01:27:32,390
drama in three acts act number one was

1817
01:27:37,330 --> 01:27:34,070
at about fourteen thousand six hundred

1818
01:27:39,700 --> 01:27:37,340
years ago and this was the first huge

1819
01:27:42,250 --> 01:27:39,710
melting of the ice sheet and then that

1820
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:42,260
was followed by a more orderly returned

1821
01:27:46,210 --> 01:27:43,760
you know like I was describing earlier

1822
01:27:48,190 --> 01:27:46,220
with the warming climate and then that

1823
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,200
got interrupted at about twelve thousand

1824
01:27:52,780 --> 01:27:50,480
nine hundred with the onset of the

1825
01:27:55,870 --> 01:27:52,790
Younger Dryas and all of the attendant

1826
01:27:57,700 --> 01:27:55,880
phenomena associated with that the

1827
01:27:59,740 --> 01:27:57,710
younger driest lasted about thirteen

1828
01:28:02,430 --> 01:27:59,750
hundred years and ended about eleven

1829
01:28:05,620 --> 01:28:02,440
thousand six hundred there was a second

1830
01:28:07,570 --> 01:28:05,630
giant meltwater spike introduced into

1831
01:28:11,380 --> 01:28:07,580
the ocean and it was the second

1832
01:28:14,380 --> 01:28:11,390
meltwater spike at eleven six that's

1833
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:14,390
called meltwater pulse one B that

1834
01:28:18,430 --> 01:28:16,130
essentially marked the end of the Ice

1835
01:28:21,700 --> 01:28:18,440
Age March the end of the two and a half

1836
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:21,710
million year Pleistocene epoch in the

1837
01:28:26,830 --> 01:28:24,290
beginning of the modern geologic epoch

1838
01:28:30,490 --> 01:28:26,840
which is called the Holocene right so

1839
01:28:33,250 --> 01:28:30,500
again the the termination of the former

1840
01:28:35,470 --> 01:28:33,260
world was a drama in three-act now

1841
01:28:37,570 --> 01:28:35,480
what's it the same trigger each one I

1842
01:28:40,750 --> 01:28:37,580
don't think necessarily that it was I

1843
01:28:43,300 --> 01:28:40,760
think that clearly the 12,900 event was

1844
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:43,310
probably the encounter between Earth and

1845
01:28:50,230 --> 01:28:46,370
a large disintegrating comet that would

1846
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:50,240
be my primary candidate to satisfy most

1847
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:54,050
of the evidence that we find there what

1848
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:56,810
though happened at 11600 what happened

1849
01:29:01,540 --> 01:28:59,600
at 14,600 I don't know you know I I

1850
01:29:03,010 --> 01:29:01,550
might go along with Robert Schoch on

1851
01:29:05,470 --> 01:29:03,020
that that we could be looking at

1852
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,480
something involving the Sun let's take

1853
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:07,520
we're not convinced right yeah that

1854
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:09,050
would be a good point to take a break

1855
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:10,730
yeah let's take a break right there and

1856
01:29:15,850 --> 01:29:12,890
we'll pick up where we are leaving off

1857
01:29:18,580 --> 01:29:15,860
our guest tonight Randall Carlson that's

1858
01:29:20,260 --> 01:29:18,590
right it's the conversation right here

1859
01:29:21,730 --> 01:29:20,270
on fade to black I'm

1860
01:29:26,620 --> 01:29:21,740
host Jimmy Church we'll be right back

1861
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:32,520
[Music]

1862
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:45,510
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1863
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:48,550
you're listening to faint and black

1864
01:29:53,890 --> 01:29:51,050
always on the edge of the hottest

1865
01:29:54,670 --> 01:29:53,900
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

1866
01:30:13,930 --> 01:29:54,680
to black

1867
01:30:17,650 --> 01:30:13,940
stay GRA radio.com hurricanes

1868
01:30:19,390 --> 01:30:17,660
earthquakes wildfires this year we've

1869
01:30:21,790 --> 01:30:19,400
experienced more than our fair share

1870
01:30:24,670 --> 01:30:21,800
this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

1871
01:30:26,860 --> 01:30:24,680
and last month I decided to make sure my

1872
01:30:29,020 --> 01:30:26,870
family does not have to worry about food

1873
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I'm your host to me Church our guest

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tonight Randall Carlson tomorrow night

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his fate or night open lines all night

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long premiering with Teresa and Aris

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pick up where we left off Randall

1948
01:34:31,300 --> 01:34:28,719
because he brought up Robert Schoch and

1949
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his suggestion that it could have been

1950
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something possibly from the Sun and and

1951
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I anything is possible right but there's

1952
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something else here and he brought it up

1953
01:34:46,209 --> 01:34:42,890
earlier it's that magic number that

1954
01:34:49,530 --> 01:34:46,219
keeps popping up which not only is that

1955
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year you know 10,500 BC and what has

1956
01:34:55,899 --> 01:34:52,969
been presented with the Giza Plateau and

1957
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shock and John Anthony's was there great

1958
01:34:59,740 --> 01:34:58,040
work but then you have other things too

1959
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as well go back Elite epi you have the

1960
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alignments of the the stars and now we

1961
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have these events over here in North

1962
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:10,550
America this date is significant around

1963
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this planet what do you think is going

1964
01:35:19,180 --> 01:35:16,730
on well you know if you go back and

1965
01:35:21,870 --> 01:35:19,190
reread Graham Hancock Spock fingerprints

1966
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of the gods he points this date out

1967
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maybe he's off by a few hundred years

1968
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which you know the evidence that was

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available in mid 1990s

1970
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:31,250
you know you probably couldn't get a

1971
01:35:36,490 --> 01:35:33,050
greater resolution in that I think

1972
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whether he put it at 12 5 or 12 9 it

1973
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:39,159
really doesn't matter but he basically

1974
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:43,610
interpreted a lot of the ancient systems

1975
01:35:47,169 --> 01:35:44,960
that we've inherited some of the

1976
01:35:50,020 --> 01:35:47,179
Egyptian stuff particularly like the

1977
01:35:53,770 --> 01:35:50,030
alignment of the Sphinx with the looking

1978
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:53,780
at the horizon I would recommend for

1979
01:35:59,700 --> 01:35:55,840
people to go back and reread that book

1980
01:36:02,830 --> 01:35:59,710
because basically 10 points that date

1981
01:36:06,939 --> 01:36:02,840
because of his reading of the ancient

1982
01:36:09,939 --> 01:36:06,949
archives of information and that was you

1983
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:09,949
know like basically 21 23 22 23 years

1984
01:36:16,270 --> 01:36:13,489
ago so at the time he wasn't quite sure

1985
01:36:18,430 --> 01:36:16,280
what to what attribute that catastrophe

1986
01:36:19,570 --> 01:36:18,440
but he definitely believed that it was

1987
01:36:22,090 --> 01:36:19,580
pointing to some

1988
01:36:24,250 --> 01:36:22,100
great catastrophe that happened and he

1989
01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:24,260
got a lot of flack for that from people

1990
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:26,060
you know in the professional community

1991
01:36:30,340 --> 01:36:28,310
in the scientific community who had that

1992
01:36:31,870 --> 01:36:30,350
basically given no thought to it really

1993
01:36:34,090 --> 01:36:31,880
didn't know anything about it but we're

1994
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:34,100
just operating primarily under

1995
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:36,890
assumptions of how things happen how

1996
01:36:41,650 --> 01:36:39,290
things change that were left over

1997
01:36:45,130 --> 01:36:41,660
essentially really from the late 19th

1998
01:36:47,380 --> 01:36:45,140
century which formed the dogma of all

1999
01:36:49,900 --> 01:36:47,390
earth science studies through most of

2000
01:36:52,450 --> 01:36:49,910
the 20th century which was this strict

2001
01:36:54,730 --> 01:36:52,460
gradualism that we could account for

2002
01:36:59,440 --> 01:36:54,740
everything that we see in the world

2003
01:37:02,050 --> 01:36:59,450
today by invoking one grain of sand and

2004
01:37:04,540 --> 01:37:02,060
one drop of water at a time and given

2005
01:37:07,570 --> 01:37:04,550
enough hundreds of millions of years we

2006
01:37:09,790 --> 01:37:07,580
could accomplish anything well that's

2007
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:09,800
the paradigm that dominated our thinking

2008
01:37:14,260 --> 01:37:12,410
of earth change for most of the 20th

2009
01:37:16,780 --> 01:37:14,270
century and of course that now has been

2010
01:37:19,390 --> 01:37:16,790
completely overturned it still has its

2011
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:19,400
defenders who want to who don't

2012
01:37:24,970 --> 01:37:21,410
basically I think are intellectually

2013
01:37:27,460 --> 01:37:24,980
afraid to acknowledge the implications

2014
01:37:30,190 --> 01:37:27,470
of catastrophism what that might mean

2015
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:30,200
for life history what that might mean

2016
01:37:36,130 --> 01:37:32,810
for the history of civilization on this

2017
01:37:38,710 --> 01:37:36,140
planet but definitely Graham was ahead

2018
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:38,720
of his time with that and you know now

2019
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:41,410
what brought him back on board was this

2020
01:37:47,050 --> 01:37:44,690
you know an active engagement was the

2021
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:47,060
work of Firestone West Kennet and others

2022
01:37:52,150 --> 01:37:50,030
that came out in 2007 that were

2023
01:37:53,170 --> 01:37:52,160
essentially saying yeah we now have

2024
01:37:56,290 --> 01:37:53,180
evidence that there was something

2025
01:37:58,210 --> 01:37:56,300
perhaps a cosmic Amun or an asteroid

2026
01:38:01,630 --> 01:37:58,220
impact that occurred right on this date

2027
01:38:03,730 --> 01:38:01,640
which you know he had identified over 20

2028
01:38:06,250 --> 01:38:03,740
years before and I might say that I

2029
01:38:07,810 --> 01:38:06,260
myself did I gave a series of lectures

2030
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:07,820
at Warren Wilson College in North

2031
01:38:12,490 --> 01:38:10,730
Carolina in 1996 right described the

2032
01:38:14,740 --> 01:38:12,500
same date and this was before I had read

2033
01:38:16,990 --> 01:38:14,750
fingerprints of the gods also so I had

2034
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:17,000
come upon the same date independently of

2035
01:38:23,890 --> 01:38:19,910
Graham and had concluded that all of

2036
01:38:27,370 --> 01:38:23,900
this ancient evidence and knowledge was

2037
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:27,380
pointing to that date at 12,900 and this

2038
01:38:33,340 --> 01:38:29,770
you know came a lot of this came from

2039
01:38:38,020 --> 01:38:33,350
reading works like Mirchi al-eid

2040
01:38:40,780 --> 01:38:38,030
hamlets mill which basically was showing

2041
01:38:43,390 --> 01:38:40,790
how the concept that the great year was

2042
01:38:46,270 --> 01:38:43,400
one of the most fundamental models of

2043
01:38:49,780 --> 01:38:46,280
reality of the ancient world and how

2044
01:38:52,090 --> 01:38:49,790
this particular model of reality came

2045
01:38:54,850 --> 01:38:52,100
down to us and essentially it's based

2046
01:38:57,310 --> 01:38:54,860
upon the progression of the vernal

2047
01:39:00,940 --> 01:38:57,320
equinox through the constellations of

2048
01:39:03,310 --> 01:39:00,950
the stars and the idea that that the

2049
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:03,320
ancient cultures utilize the backdrop of

2050
01:39:09,490 --> 01:39:06,290
the fixed stars to superimpose or

2051
01:39:12,270 --> 01:39:09,500
juxtapose this knowledge of these great

2052
01:39:14,620 --> 01:39:12,280
temporal changes to the planet because

2053
01:39:18,580 --> 01:39:14,630
unlike anything that happens down here

2054
01:39:21,010 --> 01:39:18,590
below the changes you know anybody today

2055
01:39:23,530 --> 01:39:21,020
something transported back three or four

2056
01:39:26,230 --> 01:39:23,540
thousand five thousand years ago would

2057
01:39:28,990 --> 01:39:26,240
recognize basically the same sky as we

2058
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:29,000
see today some subtle differences but

2059
01:39:34,510 --> 01:39:30,890
you would still recognize the Big Dipper

2060
01:39:36,610 --> 01:39:34,520
you would still recognize a Ryan etc now

2061
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:36,620
the North Star wouldn't be as aligned

2062
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:38,480
with the North Pole as it is but that's

2063
01:39:43,660 --> 01:39:40,850
because of that processional motion of

2064
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:43,670
the Earth's axis but so it was in

2065
01:39:50,740 --> 01:39:46,400
Hamlet's mill that came out 1969 that

2066
01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:50,750
the author's connected this idea of the

2067
01:39:56,170 --> 01:39:53,840
changing cycles of world ages with with

2068
01:39:59,500 --> 01:39:56,180
the rise in the catastrophic rise and

2069
01:40:02,800 --> 01:39:59,510
fall of these great planetary changes

2070
01:40:04,570 --> 01:40:02,810
and they perhaps interpreted it more in

2071
01:40:06,430 --> 01:40:04,580
figurative terms rather than literal

2072
01:40:08,830 --> 01:40:06,440
terms but they certainly laid the

2073
01:40:11,890 --> 01:40:08,840
groundwork for making this correlation

2074
01:40:14,020 --> 01:40:11,900
between this ancient model which is

2075
01:40:16,630 --> 01:40:14,030
which is basically the wheel of the

2076
01:40:18,940 --> 01:40:16,640
zodiac and the motion of the vernal

2077
01:40:22,630 --> 01:40:18,950
equinox through the 12 constellations

2078
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:22,640
that form the zodiacal wheel and what

2079
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:26,000
happens during the each of those of that

2080
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:30,320
transiting equinoctial alignment and so

2081
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:33,710
because of that what seemed like Graham

2082
01:40:38,980 --> 01:40:36,770
was pointing out that it seemed like

2083
01:40:40,690 --> 01:40:38,990
they kept emphasizing the cusps of Leo

2084
01:40:43,390 --> 01:40:40,700
the cusps of Leo

2085
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:43,400
well the vernal equinox transcended out

2086
01:40:48,940 --> 01:40:46,250
of the constellation of Virgo he

2087
01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:48,950
to the constellation of Leo right at

2088
01:40:55,180 --> 01:40:50,480
twelve thousand nine hundred years ago

2089
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:55,190
so the Sphinx you know which in Egypt

2090
01:40:59,850 --> 01:40:57,920
has many symbolic connotations but I

2091
01:41:04,660 --> 01:40:59,860
think one of the most important is this

2092
01:41:07,300 --> 01:41:04,670
correlation of human and lion and if you

2093
01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:07,310
look at the Acne the axis of the the

2094
01:41:13,810 --> 01:41:11,360
equinoctial axis it is now in the same

2095
01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:13,820
alignment that it was thirteen thousand

2096
01:41:17,050 --> 01:41:14,450
years ago

2097
01:41:19,540 --> 01:41:17,060
except reversed so in other words

2098
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:19,550
thirteen thousand years ago the vernal

2099
01:41:26,530 --> 01:41:23,710
equinox was moving out of Virgo into leo

2100
01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:26,540
whereas now the vernal equinox is moving

2101
01:41:32,530 --> 01:41:29,600
out of Pisces into Aquarius so Aquarius

2102
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:32,540
and Leo the sign of the man and the sign

2103
01:41:38,410 --> 01:41:35,510
of the lion stand on opposite sides of

2104
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:38,420
the zodiac to each other so basically

2105
01:41:45,190 --> 01:41:41,330
what we've seen is one half cycle of the

2106
01:41:47,770 --> 01:41:45,200
so-called Great year which enhance the

2107
01:41:50,350 --> 01:41:47,780
authors of Hamlet's Mill correlated with

2108
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:50,360
this processional cycle which takes

2109
01:41:56,770 --> 01:41:54,110
right around 26,000 years or to use the

2110
01:41:59,530 --> 01:41:56,780
traditional number twenty five thousand

2111
01:42:02,020 --> 01:41:59,540
nine hundred and twenty years and half

2112
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:02,030
of that is twelve thousand nine hundred

2113
01:42:08,980 --> 01:42:05,570
and sixty so what they did was they set

2114
01:42:11,980 --> 01:42:08,990
up a model of global change that there

2115
01:42:14,110 --> 01:42:11,990
were four major points of discontinuity

2116
01:42:17,170 --> 01:42:14,120
within this wheel and they were

2117
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:17,180
associated with the the passage of the

2118
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:19,520
vernal equinox through Aquarius through

2119
01:42:24,970 --> 01:42:21,890
Leo through Scorpio and through Taurus

2120
01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:24,980
the four fixed signs of the zodiac which

2121
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:28,420
connect like so for example when the

2122
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:34,000
equinoxes do line is connecting the the

2123
01:42:40,900 --> 01:42:38,030
Aquarius Leo axis the soul station line

2124
01:42:43,660 --> 01:42:40,910
is connecting the Scorpio Taurus axis

2125
01:42:46,150 --> 01:42:43,670
and that great cross cosmic cross is

2126
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:46,160
rotating so that it clicks into one of

2127
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:48,290
these signs every on average six

2128
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:49,850
thousand four hundred and eighty years

2129
01:42:54,700 --> 01:42:52,130
so one of the things that I've done in

2130
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:54,710
for people to go I would recommend to go

2131
01:42:59,170 --> 01:42:56,690
to the sacred geometry international

2132
01:42:59,680 --> 01:42:59,180
website because Cameron Wiltshire has

2133
01:43:02,080 --> 01:42:59,690
done some

2134
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:02,090
awesome graphics for to help people

2135
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:04,810
visualize what I'm talking about and

2136
01:43:10,290 --> 01:43:07,250
basically what it's showing is that

2137
01:43:12,610 --> 01:43:10,300
there's a high correlation of

2138
01:43:15,729 --> 01:43:12,620
discontinuous events within the natural

2139
01:43:20,050 --> 01:43:15,739
continuum of change that are associated

2140
01:43:22,030 --> 01:43:20,060
with these four sides and the most or I

2141
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:22,040
should say constellations because we're

2142
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:24,410
talking constellations here not signs

2143
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:27,050
for those who are either astronomically

2144
01:43:33,459 --> 01:43:29,810
or astrologically oriented we're talking

2145
01:43:34,930 --> 01:43:33,469
about the constellations right so if we

2146
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:34,940
go back six thousand four hundred eighty

2147
01:43:39,490 --> 01:43:37,520
years ago between 6,000 and six thousand

2148
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:39,500
four hundred and eighty as the vernal

2149
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:42,560
equinox was moving into Taurus we see a

2150
01:43:48,700 --> 01:43:45,650
major global change and what happened

2151
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:48,710
was is coming out of the ice age as the

2152
01:43:53,860 --> 01:43:52,010
age of Leo came to an end and we moved

2153
01:43:56,650 --> 01:43:53,870
into the age of cancer what we see

2154
01:43:59,020 --> 01:43:56,660
happening is that the climate became

2155
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:59,030
very warm climatologists who have

2156
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:01,040
studied this period have called the the

2157
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:03,890
three or four thousand year period post

2158
01:44:10,660 --> 01:44:07,130
immediate post ice age as the climatic

2159
01:44:14,350 --> 01:44:10,670
optimum because this was the time when

2160
01:44:17,290 --> 01:44:14,360
actually climate was in fact in spite of

2161
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:17,300
a lot of the propaganda climate was

2162
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,239
warmer than that it is now sea levels

2163
01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:22,400
might have been up to three to six feet

2164
01:44:28,270 --> 01:44:25,150
higher according to some studies and

2165
01:44:30,430 --> 01:44:28,280
there were farming communities that

2166
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:30,440
formed at 10,000 feet above sea level

2167
01:44:35,860 --> 01:44:34,130
and this is the time that I often

2168
01:44:37,810 --> 01:44:35,870
referred to as the age of the goddess

2169
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:37,820
because it was during this time when

2170
01:44:44,260 --> 01:44:40,400
these hunter-gatherer nomadic cultures

2171
01:44:47,260 --> 01:44:44,270
that had survived the the catastrophic

2172
01:44:51,370 --> 01:44:47,270
changes that ended the Ice Age moved

2173
01:44:55,450 --> 01:44:51,380
into a an eco zone which had basically

2174
01:44:57,670 --> 01:44:55,460
been depopulated now nature if you study

2175
01:45:01,209 --> 01:44:57,680
these great catastrophes whether it's in

2176
01:45:03,550 --> 01:45:01,219
the aftermath of hurricanes or volcanic

2177
01:45:05,620 --> 01:45:03,560
eruptions or even asteroid impacts and

2178
01:45:08,740 --> 01:45:05,630
that sort of thing what you discover is

2179
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:08,750
that the recuperative powers of nature

2180
01:45:14,500 --> 01:45:12,170
are phenomenal and I visited a nobody

2181
01:45:17,140 --> 01:45:14,510
two years ago

2182
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:17,150
Mount Saint Helens to investigate the

2183
01:45:23,740 --> 01:45:20,239
recovery you know in in roughly three

2184
01:45:25,930 --> 01:45:23,750
decades after the great eruptions

2185
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:25,940
created a lunar landscape over about 200

2186
01:45:32,109 --> 01:45:29,210
square miles right and you could see how

2187
01:45:35,709 --> 01:45:32,119
rapidly nature was reclaiming that

2188
01:45:38,109 --> 01:45:35,719
devastated landscape and in another

2189
01:45:39,459 --> 01:45:38,119
three or four centuries that mountain

2190
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:39,469
the whole mountain should be pretty much

2191
01:45:46,750 --> 01:45:43,250
reforested right so excuse me my point

2192
01:45:49,180 --> 01:45:46,760
here is that nature has the ability to

2193
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:49,190
recover from the catastrophic and

2194
01:45:56,260 --> 01:45:52,489
traumatic events quite rapidly probably

2195
01:45:59,020 --> 01:45:56,270
faster than a decimated human culture

2196
01:46:00,569 --> 01:45:59,030
does and so the in the aftermath like

2197
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:00,579
they described earlier Clovis culture

2198
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:02,960
apparently almost completely disappeared

2199
01:46:08,530 --> 01:46:05,650
from North America right right so a

2200
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:08,540
thousand years later another culture

2201
01:46:12,669 --> 01:46:10,489
begins to appear they're so different

2202
01:46:14,500 --> 01:46:12,679
distinctively different that they've

2203
01:46:16,450 --> 01:46:14,510
given a different name by archeologists

2204
01:46:17,979 --> 01:46:16,460
they're called the Folsom culture who

2205
01:46:20,799 --> 01:46:17,989
are the Folsom culture well nobody knows

2206
01:46:22,419 --> 01:46:20,809
exactly where they came from interesting

2207
01:46:24,910 --> 01:46:22,429
genetic studies that are beginning to

2208
01:46:27,370 --> 01:46:24,920
reveal some very interesting information

2209
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:27,380
about the dispersal of people around the

2210
01:46:31,419 --> 01:46:29,570
globe but it gets back to this question

2211
01:46:32,919 --> 01:46:31,429
that you brought up earlier you see it's

2212
01:46:36,609 --> 01:46:32,929
almost like when you look at Mount st.

2213
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:36,619
Helens what you see there is what what

2214
01:46:45,879 --> 01:46:40,610
the ecologist calls a refugium refugium

2215
01:46:48,459 --> 01:46:45,889
is somewhere where species were some

2216
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:48,469
little enclave of nature manages to

2217
01:46:53,379 --> 01:46:51,040
survive by whatever reason you know

2218
01:46:56,589 --> 01:46:53,389
whatever luck of the draw

2219
01:46:59,649 --> 01:46:56,599
but these refugium are the places from

2220
01:47:02,140 --> 01:46:59,659
which nature begins to recolonize these

2221
01:47:04,689 --> 01:47:02,150
devastated landscapes typically first

2222
01:47:07,209 --> 01:47:04,699
thing it appears in the volcanic ash is

2223
01:47:09,609 --> 01:47:07,219
a generation of ferns and then you have

2224
01:47:11,799 --> 01:47:09,619
a few generation of ferns they grow up

2225
01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:11,809
they live their lifecycle but they

2226
01:47:16,899 --> 01:47:14,239
return to the soul return to the ash and

2227
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:16,909
they help begin to build the layer of

2228
01:47:23,919 --> 01:47:21,050
soil that can now support the more

2229
01:47:26,020 --> 01:47:23,929
advanced species and so we have to

2230
01:47:27,310 --> 01:47:26,030
understand what happened at the end of

2231
01:47:29,290 --> 01:47:27,320
the last ice age was

2232
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:29,300
there were large portions of the

2233
01:47:34,030 --> 01:47:31,730
planetary surface that were basically

2234
01:47:37,839 --> 01:47:34,040
destroyed that were basically erased and

2235
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,849
so when we look at the historical

2236
01:47:41,580 --> 01:47:39,920
discovery of America I think that what

2237
01:47:44,250 --> 01:47:41,590
we're really doing is looking at the

2238
01:47:46,780 --> 01:47:44,260
rediscovery of America the

2239
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:46,790
recolonization it took nearly ten

2240
01:47:52,899 --> 01:47:49,760
thousand years for for humans to

2241
01:47:56,140 --> 01:47:52,909
actually return to North America in mass

2242
01:47:58,620 --> 01:47:56,150
and in the survivors in North America

2243
01:48:02,290 --> 01:47:58,630
see it's - another interesting idea

2244
01:48:03,729 --> 01:48:02,300
which I think would be probably beyond

2245
01:48:05,709 --> 01:48:03,739
our conversation tonight when you look

2246
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,719
at this evidence but I would I would

2247
01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:08,239
suggest that there's that the human

2248
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:11,679
survivors of these catastrophes that

2249
01:48:15,729 --> 01:48:13,610
convulsed the earth at the end of the

2250
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:15,739
last ice age were two types there were

2251
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:19,310
two categories one was those people who

2252
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:21,770
survived just by being in the right

2253
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:23,810
place at the right time by the luck of

2254
01:48:29,470 --> 01:48:26,000
the draw right there was another group

2255
01:48:32,319 --> 01:48:29,480
that survived because they prepared

2256
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:32,329
because they knew something was coming

2257
01:48:39,189 --> 01:48:36,010
they put the the pieces in place to

2258
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:39,199
ensure the high probability of their

2259
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:42,730
survival and retaining some degree of

2260
01:48:48,220 --> 01:48:46,130
cultural knowledge not a jump until

2261
01:48:50,620 --> 01:48:48,230
right there hold on a second because

2262
01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:50,630
this is a very interesting point is

2263
01:48:57,700 --> 01:48:55,270
there evidence of high technology

2264
01:48:59,859 --> 01:48:57,710
advanced culture that predated

2265
01:49:02,770 --> 01:48:59,869
everything here in the United States and

2266
01:49:05,379 --> 01:49:02,780
North America not that I know of

2267
01:49:08,169 --> 01:49:05,389
but what we do see is at the beginning

2268
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:08,179
of recorded history just like Graham is

2269
01:49:14,050 --> 01:49:12,110
Cedric frequently it's more like the

2270
01:49:16,750 --> 01:49:14,060
beginnings of history is it really the

2271
01:49:18,370 --> 01:49:16,760
beginnings it's the end of something you

2272
01:49:22,810 --> 01:49:18,380
know the building of the pyramids on the

2273
01:49:25,209 --> 01:49:22,820
Giza Plateau just see regardless of what

2274
01:49:27,850 --> 01:49:25,219
conventional thinkers think about this

2275
01:49:30,129 --> 01:49:27,860
it just doesn't make sense you know as

2276
01:49:32,589 --> 01:49:30,139
somebody who spent 40 years building

2277
01:49:35,649 --> 01:49:32,599
things knowing kind of what it's like to

2278
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:35,659
have to move Oh something to weighs a

2279
01:49:41,140 --> 01:49:39,920
ton on occasion right to think that all

2280
01:49:45,190 --> 01:49:41,150
over the world

2281
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:45,200
you had hunter-gatherers who just

2282
01:49:49,390 --> 01:49:46,970
decided all of a sudden one day you know

2283
01:49:53,590 --> 01:49:49,400
what we're gonna start cutting stones

2284
01:49:55,450 --> 01:49:53,600
that way ten twenty a hundred maybe even

2285
01:49:57,340 --> 01:49:55,460
two hundred tons and start building

2286
01:49:59,230 --> 01:49:57,350
things out of these two hundred tons

2287
01:50:01,270 --> 01:49:59,240
stones and we're going to cut those

2288
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:01,280
stones and we're going to other quarries

2289
01:50:05,650 --> 01:50:02,290
and we're going to have perhaps

2290
01:50:08,260 --> 01:50:05,660
transport them fifty or a hundred or or

2291
01:50:11,380 --> 01:50:08,270
two hundred miles over land to build

2292
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:11,390
this thing you see that justice I'm

2293
01:50:16,780 --> 01:50:14,090
sorry it doesn't make sense to me okay

2294
01:50:20,410 --> 01:50:16,790
you've got hunter-gatherers right and

2295
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:20,420
okay maybe in one place you could come

2296
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:22,490
up and say yeah for whatever reason this

2297
01:50:26,410 --> 01:50:24,770
particular group on this particular

2298
01:50:29,290 --> 01:50:26,420
continent this particular region of the

2299
01:50:31,180 --> 01:50:29,300
planet got inspired or motivated to

2300
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:31,190
build to start building things out of

2301
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:34,400
you know 20-ton stones or 50-ton stones

2302
01:50:41,380 --> 01:50:37,520
but we see a Jimmy all over the world

2303
01:50:43,270 --> 01:50:41,390
and in it I'm sorry all of the attempts

2304
01:50:46,570 --> 01:50:43,280
by the more conventional thinkers to

2305
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,580
dismiss that or to get around it and not

2306
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:48,400
have to address it I think are

2307
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:51,170
completely missing the reality that's

2308
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:53,690
that's staring them right in the face it

2309
01:50:58,810 --> 01:50:56,570
just does not make sense I'm sorry it

2310
01:51:00,580 --> 01:50:58,820
doesn't make sense and we have to come

2311
01:51:03,370 --> 01:51:00,590
up with some model of history I think

2312
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:03,380
that can explain that phenomena and I'm

2313
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:05,090
sorry the conventional model just

2314
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:07,280
doesn't you know you can stand there and

2315
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,690
you can look at the pyramids on the Giza

2316
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:10,400
Plateau and you're thinking wait a

2317
01:51:14,740 --> 01:51:12,530
second the grandfather's of the people

2318
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:14,750
that built these were just farmers in

2319
01:51:20,230 --> 01:51:17,210
the Nile Valley right and now now

2320
01:51:22,660 --> 01:51:20,240
they're built no I I'm sorry it doesn't

2321
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:22,670
make sense and you can invoke all of the

2322
01:51:27,550 --> 01:51:26,090
the conventional models that you want

2323
01:51:29,860 --> 01:51:27,560
going back over the last hundred years

2324
01:51:31,900 --> 01:51:29,870
and I don't think I think that all

2325
01:51:35,890 --> 01:51:31,910
you're doing is attempting to get around

2326
01:51:38,830 --> 01:51:35,900
that reality that glaring contradictory

2327
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:38,840
reality you see and then we can go South

2328
01:51:44,290 --> 01:51:41,210
America we can go you know Malta we can

2329
01:51:46,150 --> 01:51:44,300
go to you know Lebanon in Syria we can

2330
01:51:49,540 --> 01:51:46,160
go to the British Isles we find the same

2331
01:51:52,180 --> 01:51:49,550
thing and that's what I'm getting at so

2332
01:51:53,290 --> 01:51:52,190
if we begin to try to look at the

2333
01:51:54,459 --> 01:51:53,300
explanation for that

2334
01:51:56,379 --> 01:51:54,469
I think it

2335
01:51:59,529 --> 01:51:56,389
leads us directly into admitting that

2336
01:52:01,680 --> 01:51:59,539
yeah there was somebody who had some

2337
01:52:06,509 --> 01:52:01,690
kind of knowledge of engineering of

2338
01:52:11,979 --> 01:52:06,519
mathematics of astronomy of geology and

2339
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:11,989
they were able to somehow intervene in

2340
01:52:16,540 --> 01:52:14,719
cultures and motivate these cultures to

2341
01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:16,550
do these things and if you look at the

2342
01:52:21,759 --> 01:52:18,800
traditions of the cultures themselves it

2343
01:52:25,930 --> 01:52:21,769
confirms what I just said they all talk

2344
01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:25,940
about gods or these higher beings that

2345
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:28,880
came in and I and I'm not necessarily

2346
01:52:32,739 --> 01:52:30,110
saying that there could have been

2347
01:52:36,910 --> 01:52:32,749
anything other than more scientifically

2348
01:52:39,759 --> 01:52:36,920
advanced humans right but definitely

2349
01:52:43,419 --> 01:52:39,769
when I look at the Great Pyramid of Giza

2350
01:52:46,270 --> 01:52:43,429
I'm seeing technological advancement

2351
01:52:49,029 --> 01:52:46,280
there that's something beyond well oh

2352
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:49,039
you know so the explanations come well

2353
01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:51,679
they built this massive stone circle so

2354
01:52:56,649 --> 01:52:53,119
that they could know when to plant their

2355
01:52:58,899 --> 01:52:56,659
crops well see here's the thing Jimmy

2356
01:53:00,370 --> 01:52:58,909
you you can determine when to plant your

2357
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:00,380
crops just by putting a stick in the

2358
01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:02,210
ground and drawing a circle around it

2359
01:53:06,910 --> 01:53:04,760
you don't need to move 50 stones that

2360
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:06,920
weigh 20 tons each and put them in a

2361
01:53:11,140 --> 01:53:08,960
circle aligned to the cardinal

2362
01:53:12,819 --> 01:53:11,150
directions and marking out the passage

2363
01:53:15,609 --> 01:53:12,829
of the Sun and the moon you don't need

2364
01:53:17,500 --> 01:53:15,619
to do that you know to know when to

2365
01:53:21,729 --> 01:53:17,510
plant your crops or grow some wheat

2366
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:21,739
right right yeah there's this major

2367
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:24,710
disconnect in conventional academic

2368
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:27,920
thinking there's a blind spot and I

2369
01:53:31,839 --> 01:53:30,110
don't know why but they are so reluctant

2370
01:53:34,779 --> 01:53:31,849
to admit that there may have been

2371
01:53:37,060 --> 01:53:34,789
something much grander and greater going

2372
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:37,070
on in our prehistory that we haven't

2373
01:53:42,580 --> 01:53:40,610
figured out yet have you ever leave

2374
01:53:46,569 --> 01:53:42,590
we're gonna hit a break here in a second

2375
01:53:50,620 --> 01:53:46,579
but the migration of us around this

2376
01:53:52,899 --> 01:53:50,630
planet where conventional academia is

2377
01:53:55,930 --> 01:53:52,909
gonna say it started in in southern

2378
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:55,940
Africa and and went up and and and went

2379
01:54:02,379 --> 01:53:57,650
around and here we are today you know

2380
01:54:05,620 --> 01:54:02,389
four million years ago but the what was

2381
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:05,630
going on in Giza was also going on here

2382
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:07,210
and in in

2383
01:54:12,860 --> 01:54:09,280
America and South America but it was

2384
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:12,870
also going on in in northern Russia and

2385
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:16,330
could it be that this knowledge maybe he

2386
01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:19,870
came from the north and progressed down

2387
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:22,960
the reason why I suggest that is we have

2388
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:27,130
gobekli tepe which is north of Giza it's

2389
01:54:35,729 --> 01:54:30,370
north and it was built 7,000 years

2390
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:35,739
before the rise of the the Pharaohs so

2391
01:54:41,340 --> 01:54:38,530
wait a minute it couldn't have been the

2392
01:54:42,900 --> 01:54:41,350
opposite of what everybody is suggesting

2393
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:42,910
and why don't they take a look at that

2394
01:54:49,229 --> 01:54:46,690
and consider it well let's see who is

2395
01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:49,239
the author oh I read the book years ago

2396
01:54:55,979 --> 01:54:51,340
um it'll come to me in a second who was

2397
01:54:57,420 --> 01:54:55,989
proposing exactly that what was his name

2398
01:54:59,690 --> 01:54:57,430
I'll have it after the break

2399
01:55:03,900 --> 01:54:59,700
okay and dresses up from from the

2400
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:03,910
archives so how much time we got left

2401
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:07,030
we've got four minutes Oh four minutes

2402
01:55:11,970 --> 01:55:09,610
oh well okay that's enough to cover a

2403
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:11,980
couple of thousand years of material

2404
01:55:18,660 --> 01:55:14,890
right well you know because when we if

2405
01:55:21,330 --> 01:55:18,670
you go and you start I suggested this a

2406
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,340
few months ago you know I'm just laying

2407
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:23,920
awake and then thinking I can't stop my

2408
01:55:28,650 --> 01:55:26,110
brain and I started to think about the

2409
01:55:30,750 --> 01:55:28,660
Black Sea and and what was going on

2410
01:55:33,780 --> 01:55:30,760
around there and and you start to look

2411
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:33,790
at at Russia and you go up you know and

2412
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:35,440
and head north you know certainly China

2413
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:38,320
too but how that just funneled down

2414
01:55:44,370 --> 01:55:42,850
through modern-day Turkey today and the

2415
01:55:47,790 --> 01:55:44,380
ancient structures that are there that

2416
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:47,800
predate everything else and of course

2417
01:55:53,970 --> 01:55:50,560
gobekli tepe is right there again at

2418
01:55:56,970 --> 01:55:53,980
that magic number at 10,500 BC that

2419
01:56:00,300 --> 01:55:56,980
maybe this knowledge came from the north

2420
01:56:03,180 --> 01:56:00,310
and it didn't come from the south up

2421
01:56:05,580 --> 01:56:03,190
through Egypt around Jerusalem and then

2422
01:56:09,740 --> 01:56:05,590
up to gobekli tepe because the dating is

2423
01:56:11,610 --> 01:56:09,750
in the opposite direction mm-hmm I

2424
01:56:13,890 --> 01:56:11,620
certainly would consider that a

2425
01:56:16,260 --> 01:56:13,900
possibility and the name of this author

2426
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:16,270
and his book which I read years ago will

2427
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:18,850
come to me in a second but yes he was

2428
01:56:22,859 --> 01:56:20,410
proposing that that there was a northern

2429
01:56:22,859 --> 01:56:22,869
so

2430
01:56:28,060 --> 01:56:26,169
yeah I certainly think that's worthy of

2431
01:56:30,220 --> 01:56:28,070
consideration III wouldn't say

2432
01:56:32,439 --> 01:56:30,230
necessarily that oh I'm gonna believe

2433
01:56:35,069 --> 01:56:32,449
that that's the final answer but it

2434
01:56:37,689 --> 01:56:35,079
could definitely be plausible in in my

2435
01:56:39,129 --> 01:56:37,699
opinion we got to be open to all

2436
01:56:40,779 --> 01:56:39,139
possibilities here because we're

2437
01:56:43,870 --> 01:56:40,789
confronted with something that's really

2438
01:56:46,390 --> 01:56:43,880
beyond any conventional explanation and

2439
01:56:49,569 --> 01:56:46,400
you know this is where I'm or what was

2440
01:56:51,069 --> 01:56:49,579
the old the geologist was at EC

2441
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:51,079
Chamberlin I'm sure you don't remember

2442
01:56:55,450 --> 01:56:53,210
but I

2443
01:56:57,129 --> 01:56:55,460
oh he was discounting his colleagues

2444
01:57:00,759 --> 01:56:57,139
around the turn of the century for being

2445
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:00,769
too too high bound to to conventionally

2446
01:57:04,810 --> 01:57:02,090
oriented and he said that there's a

2447
01:57:07,509 --> 01:57:04,820
important role for the outrageous

2448
01:57:09,609 --> 01:57:07,519
hypothesis in understanding Earth

2449
01:57:12,279 --> 01:57:09,619
history and you know I'm a firm believer

2450
01:57:15,549 --> 01:57:12,289
in that that we have to it's the

2451
01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:15,559
balancing between you know the absurd

2452
01:57:19,479 --> 01:57:17,840
and what could be possible you know

2453
01:57:21,939 --> 01:57:19,489
because there is a lot of whoo out there

2454
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:21,949
whoo whoo stuff and you know we've got

2455
01:57:26,770 --> 01:57:24,050
to be careful and consider always

2456
01:57:28,660 --> 01:57:26,780
consider what the evidence suggests but

2457
01:57:30,339 --> 01:57:28,670
interestingly I mean to me the evidence

2458
01:57:32,319 --> 01:57:30,349
points to something that's as

2459
01:57:34,060 --> 01:57:32,329
extraordinary as anything fictional that

2460
01:57:36,370 --> 01:57:34,070
you could come up with that's right and

2461
01:57:39,069 --> 01:57:36,380
and and Randall we've got a minute left

2462
01:57:41,169 --> 01:57:39,079
when we talk about the land bridges and

2463
01:57:44,169 --> 01:57:41,179
and the differences in sea levels and

2464
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,179
certainly ice and and how different the

2465
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:46,639
world was 40,000 years ago but that

2466
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:49,010
migration may be this is what I'm

2467
01:57:54,970 --> 01:57:52,010
suggesting maybe it started here in in

2468
01:57:57,339 --> 01:57:54,980
North America went up across around

2469
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:57,349
through Russia through the land bridge

2470
01:58:04,479 --> 01:58:00,800
the opposite direction of what what is

2471
01:58:07,419 --> 01:58:04,489
is the the dogma that were fed and then

2472
01:58:09,850 --> 01:58:07,429
down from the north from Russia and and

2473
01:58:12,819 --> 01:58:09,860
around you know that's that's all I'm

2474
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:12,829
suggesting here that maybe it started

2475
01:58:18,399 --> 01:58:16,610
here why the the ice that came down from

2476
01:58:22,629 --> 01:58:18,409
Canada and covered Northam and maybe

2477
01:58:25,029 --> 01:58:22,639
people split they went to where the food

2478
01:58:27,189 --> 01:58:25,039
was and they went back out and across

2479
01:58:29,739 --> 01:58:27,199
and around and then repopulated North

2480
01:58:32,350 --> 01:58:29,749
America at a later date when things

2481
01:58:34,849 --> 01:58:32,360
settle down I'm just saying that's how

2482
01:58:36,859 --> 01:58:34,859
my brain works

2483
01:58:38,479 --> 01:58:36,869
well you know you could be onto

2484
01:58:40,879 --> 01:58:38,489
something if we're going back forty or

2485
01:58:44,929 --> 01:58:40,889
fifty thousand years and or maybe even

2486
01:58:48,799 --> 01:58:44,939
earlier you know America has been or I'd

2487
01:58:51,649 --> 01:58:48,809
say North America has been subject to

2488
01:58:55,489 --> 01:58:51,659
this repeating this recurring episodes

2489
01:58:58,009 --> 01:58:55,499
of glacial and interglacial ages so that

2490
01:58:59,540 --> 01:58:58,019
you'll have ten or fifteen thousand

2491
01:59:01,849 --> 01:58:59,550
years of a glacial age and then you'll

2492
01:59:04,369 --> 01:59:01,859
have an interim period that's as warm as

2493
01:59:06,529 --> 01:59:04,379
now or maybe not quite as warm but where

2494
01:59:09,409 --> 01:59:06,539
the glaciers shrink back maybe not

2495
01:59:12,409 --> 01:59:09,419
disappear altogether but shrink back to

2496
01:59:14,899 --> 01:59:12,419
just only a small part of what they had

2497
01:59:17,810 --> 01:59:14,909
been at their maximum and so there's

2498
01:59:21,979 --> 01:59:17,820
actually kind of a periodicity to this

2499
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:21,989
thing this expansion and contraction of

2500
01:59:27,469 --> 01:59:24,239
the glaciers the rising and falling of

2501
01:59:30,109 --> 01:59:27,479
sea levels it's almost like a pulse of

2502
01:59:31,969 --> 01:59:30,119
the climate of the global climate in the

2503
01:59:33,500 --> 01:59:31,979
interim periods yes there could have

2504
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:33,510
been who knows what could have arisen

2505
01:59:39,020 --> 01:59:36,239
during those interim periods but then

2506
01:59:41,659 --> 01:59:39,030
basically erased when the next Ice Age

2507
01:59:44,389 --> 01:59:41,669
comes because think about you know think

2508
01:59:45,919 --> 01:59:44,399
about Canada in Canada you've got all on

2509
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:45,929
hold on hold on I got to take a break

2510
01:59:52,129 --> 01:59:49,199
right here I can tell where this is

2511
01:59:54,349 --> 01:59:52,139
going so all right let's take a quick

2512
01:59:57,020 --> 01:59:54,359
break and also want you to wrap your

2513
02:00:00,139 --> 01:59:57,030
mind around a conversation about the the

2514
02:00:01,819 --> 02:00:00,149
rakat structure and there's something

2515
02:00:04,069 --> 02:00:01,829
going on there too as well we'll be

2516
02:00:06,739 --> 02:00:04,079
right back our guest Randall Carlson

2517
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:06,749
stay with me

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2552
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2617
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2618
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2622
02:04:46,930 --> 02:04:43,250
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2623
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:46,940
radio network and kgr a the global radio

2624
02:05:01,330 --> 02:04:49,310
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2625
02:05:08,479 --> 02:05:03,649
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

2626
02:05:13,209 --> 02:05:08,489
Jimmy Church our guest tonight Randall

2627
02:05:15,469 --> 02:05:13,219
Carlson the conversation sacred geometry

2628
02:05:17,929 --> 02:05:15,479
international.com is the website the

2629
02:05:20,029 --> 02:05:17,939
links for Randall are over at Jimmy

2630
02:05:21,739 --> 02:05:20,039
Church radio.com and of course you can

2631
02:05:25,369 --> 02:05:21,749
also follow Randall on twitter at a

2632
02:05:30,009 --> 02:05:25,379
sacred geometry int right isn't that

2633
02:05:34,819 --> 02:05:30,019
what it is it's a commentary int on

2634
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:34,829
geometry international it started out as

2635
02:05:40,639 --> 02:05:37,199
sacred geometry Atlanta then it went to

2636
02:05:42,399 --> 02:05:40,649
think sacred geometry America and now

2637
02:05:45,020 --> 02:05:42,409
it's extended to sacred geometry

2638
02:05:47,299 --> 02:05:45,030
International I'm actually pushing for

2639
02:05:49,580 --> 02:05:47,309
sacred geometry galactic right out I

2640
02:05:50,270 --> 02:05:49,590
don't look that's just still a few years

2641
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:50,280
in the future

2642
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:53,010
how smug we'll see once once we start

2643
02:05:56,869 --> 02:05:55,050
getting feedback from the Galactic level

2644
02:05:59,629 --> 02:05:56,879
that's when we're old yeah there you go

2645
02:06:04,250 --> 02:05:59,639
I want to give some credit here to

2646
02:06:07,369 --> 02:06:04,260
Cameron how smart is he it's constantly

2647
02:06:09,169 --> 02:06:07,379
surprises me no he's an immensely

2648
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:09,179
talented individual and he's very

2649
02:06:15,799 --> 02:06:13,530
committed to doing this work I you know

2650
02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:15,809
what's happened in the last ten years I

2651
02:06:20,029 --> 02:06:18,239
couldn't have done without Cameron or my

2652
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:20,039
other good colleague Brad young I have

2653
02:06:25,009 --> 02:06:22,050
to give credit to both these guys Brad

2654
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:25,019
Young has put together the Geo cosmic

2655
02:06:31,509 --> 02:06:28,530
Rex dot-com website that has now over a

2656
02:06:34,099 --> 02:06:31,519
hundred video clips on it of our

2657
02:06:37,459 --> 02:06:34,109
excursions out into the field it's also

2658
02:06:39,979 --> 02:06:37,469
got old maybe a dozen or so articles and

2659
02:06:41,599 --> 02:06:39,989
essays that I have written giving

2660
02:06:44,569 --> 02:06:41,609
background to this he's yeah we've got

2661
02:06:46,669 --> 02:06:44,579
he's got videos up there when we were

2662
02:06:47,869 --> 02:06:46,679
traveling with Graham of myself and

2663
02:06:52,310 --> 02:06:47,879
Graham out in the field

2664
02:06:53,810 --> 02:06:52,320
examining this data he's also got drone

2665
02:06:55,939 --> 02:06:53,820
footage now because he's become a

2666
02:06:58,819 --> 02:06:55,949
licensed drone pilot federally licensed

2667
02:07:02,330 --> 02:06:58,829
drone pilots so we are now part of what

2668
02:07:05,629 --> 02:07:02,340
we're doing is archiving drone footage

2669
02:07:08,419 --> 02:07:05,639
of these landscapes of catastrophe so

2670
02:07:10,939 --> 02:07:08,429
those two guys Brad young and Cameron

2671
02:07:12,229 --> 02:07:10,949
Wiltshire have been indispensable to

2672
02:07:14,420 --> 02:07:12,239
everything that's happened in the last

2673
02:07:16,550 --> 02:07:14,430
10 to 20

2674
02:07:19,670 --> 02:07:16,560
Brad and I have been traveling together

2675
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:19,680
going on about 20 close to 22 years now

2676
02:07:26,570 --> 02:07:22,770
we've done God I've even lost count 40

2677
02:07:29,390 --> 02:07:26,580
or 50 expeditions around documenting

2678
02:07:31,940 --> 02:07:29,400
this so we have hundreds of hours of

2679
02:07:34,670 --> 02:07:31,950
video clips tens of thousands of slides

2680
02:07:37,670 --> 02:07:34,680
and photographs and now we're adding the

2681
02:07:39,770 --> 02:07:37,680
drone footage to it so you'll find

2682
02:07:41,450 --> 02:07:39,780
between those two websites people can

2683
02:07:44,890 --> 02:07:41,460
get pretty much a whole broad spectrum

2684
02:07:47,180 --> 02:07:44,900
of what this research is all about

2685
02:07:49,670 --> 02:07:47,190
because there's on the one hand there's

2686
02:07:51,740 --> 02:07:49,680
this the sacred geometry side of it like

2687
02:07:53,510 --> 02:07:51,750
we've been talking about that was born

2688
02:07:55,220 --> 02:07:53,520
out of the studies of architecture and

2689
02:07:57,530 --> 02:07:55,230
art and things like that and then the

2690
02:08:00,170 --> 02:07:57,540
other side is that what came out of the

2691
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:00,180
studies of the earth that came out of

2692
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:02,970
astronomy and to me what's exciting

2693
02:08:07,550 --> 02:08:04,410
about is really we see we're seeing a

2694
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:07,560
number a convergence of these and it's

2695
02:08:12,020 --> 02:08:08,970
in to that even in the in the

2696
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:12,030
nomenclature geometry measure of the

2697
02:08:17,330 --> 02:08:15,810
earth geology earth knowledge right so

2698
02:08:21,710 --> 02:08:17,340
they're both referring us back

2699
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:21,720
ultimately to the earth which is the the

2700
02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:23,130
center of all this action that we're

2701
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:26,400
talking about but I think that what

2702
02:08:30,530 --> 02:08:28,050
we're having to do now is begin to

2703
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:30,540
expand our horizons and realize and

2704
02:08:36,410 --> 02:08:33,930
understand that the earth is a much as

2705
02:08:38,750 --> 02:08:36,420
part of a much larger ecosystem

2706
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:38,760
it is literally part of a cosmic

2707
02:08:43,570 --> 02:08:41,490
ecosystem and this is part of what gets

2708
02:08:45,290 --> 02:08:43,580
me frustrated in a lot of the

2709
02:08:48,940 --> 02:08:45,300
discussions and debate about climate

2710
02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:48,950
change is that we seem to be focused now

2711
02:08:54,650 --> 02:08:51,960
exclusively on the human influence on

2712
02:08:58,130 --> 02:08:54,660
climate - the neglect of what we're

2713
02:09:00,590 --> 02:08:58,140
learning is lots of other very potent

2714
02:09:02,870 --> 02:09:00,600
and powerful influences on the climate

2715
02:09:04,990 --> 02:09:02,880
both coming into genic and oh

2716
02:09:08,090 --> 02:09:05,000
genetically from within the earth and

2717
02:09:09,890 --> 02:09:08,100
exegetically from outside the earth and

2718
02:09:13,220 --> 02:09:09,900
sometimes the two interacting together

2719
02:09:16,130 --> 02:09:13,230
so for example when you go back and you

2720
02:09:19,820 --> 02:09:16,140
look at some of the first the dating of

2721
02:09:21,170 --> 02:09:19,830
the Younger Dryas event which is twelve

2722
02:09:23,900 --> 02:09:21,180
thousand nine hundred were the black

2723
02:09:26,510 --> 02:09:23,910
mantas if you go into the flood lands of

2724
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:26,520
Eastern Washington what you'll find is

2725
02:09:31,490 --> 02:09:28,410
that there are these gigantic black

2726
02:09:34,700 --> 02:09:31,500
back flood sedimentary layers some are

2727
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:34,710
three and four feet thick sandwiched in

2728
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:36,810
between these you see volcanic ash

2729
02:09:41,990 --> 02:09:40,170
there's an example of a gully that got

2730
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:42,000
exposed in Eastern Washington that's

2731
02:09:52,750 --> 02:09:47,610
composed of a whole succession of about

2732
02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:52,760
39 or 40 layers of these bath floods and

2733
02:10:00,980 --> 02:09:56,480
sandwiched in there is ash that was

2734
02:10:02,660 --> 02:10:00,990
discharged or thrown out of Mount st.

2735
02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:02,670
Helens and it was undergoing a

2736
02:10:08,150 --> 02:10:06,090
tremendous volcanic eruption and at the

2737
02:10:10,250 --> 02:10:08,160
same time these tremendous floods were

2738
02:10:12,350 --> 02:10:10,260
going on and there were other huge

2739
02:10:13,970 --> 02:10:12,360
volcanic eruptions around the planet

2740
02:10:16,220 --> 02:10:13,980
that were taking place at the same time

2741
02:10:17,810 --> 02:10:16,230
and it would make sense when you think

2742
02:10:21,050 --> 02:10:17,820
about it because when you have this

2743
02:10:24,220 --> 02:10:21,060
rapid melting of ice releasing the loads

2744
02:10:27,770 --> 02:10:24,230
on the North American continent and the

2745
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:27,780
northwestern European continent and the

2746
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:29,760
transfer of that tremendous amount of

2747
02:10:35,300 --> 02:10:32,370
weight back into the ocean basins there

2748
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:35,310
has to be a tectonic and seismic

2749
02:10:40,250 --> 02:10:37,610
response you can't get around

2750
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:40,260
transferring that much mass that much

2751
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:42,810
weight around shifting it around on the

2752
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:44,970
surface of the earth without having a

2753
02:10:49,610 --> 02:10:47,250
subsurface response so it would make

2754
02:10:52,820 --> 02:10:49,620
totally perfect sense that you would

2755
02:10:55,490 --> 02:10:52,830
have tremendous examples of volcanism

2756
02:10:58,400 --> 02:10:55,500
and seismic activity and both of which

2757
02:11:00,830 --> 02:10:58,410
are now being documented in abundance to

2758
02:11:04,340 --> 02:11:00,840
have occurred during this transition so

2759
02:11:08,090 --> 02:11:04,350
really this whole epoch of transition

2760
02:11:09,790 --> 02:11:08,100
was like a perfect storm of stuff we

2761
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:09,800
haven't really thought well yeah

2762
02:11:16,220 --> 02:11:12,930
actually I'm probably gonna help you

2763
02:11:18,500 --> 02:11:16,230
continue that thought we had a really

2764
02:11:20,270 --> 02:11:18,510
great show the other night with your

2765
02:11:22,940 --> 02:11:20,280
good friend at night and Gale our good

2766
02:11:25,190 --> 02:11:22,950
friend member of this family and one of

2767
02:11:29,500 --> 02:11:25,200
the things that came out in my mind's

2768
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:29,510
eye from that conversation is that these

2769
02:11:35,210 --> 02:11:33,330
these events here now we talk about you

2770
02:11:36,650 --> 02:11:35,220
know ice ages and these these these

2771
02:11:40,010 --> 02:11:36,660
grand events but there's also other

2772
02:11:42,790 --> 02:11:40,020
things that I think to consider volcanic

2773
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:42,800
eruptions earth

2774
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:45,410
he's these huge things that happen that

2775
02:11:53,380 --> 02:11:51,170
maybe these forces are triggered inside

2776
02:11:55,660 --> 02:11:53,390
this this planet of course but from

2777
02:11:58,660 --> 02:11:55,670
external forces that are occurring out

2778
02:12:00,940 --> 02:11:58,670
in in in the galaxy and throughout the

2779
02:12:02,710 --> 02:12:00,950
universe and what do you think about

2780
02:12:06,610 --> 02:12:02,720
that because we're talking about the

2781
02:12:08,050 --> 02:12:06,620
zodiac and the alignments and it seems

2782
02:12:11,710 --> 02:12:08,060
like there could be something else going

2783
02:12:14,980 --> 02:12:11,720
on that we're looking to us you know of

2784
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:14,990
this planet and us as being some of the

2785
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:17,450
causes of it we may not have any control

2786
02:12:20,670 --> 02:12:19,610
at all and it may be happening from

2787
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:20,680
off-planet

2788
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:23,450
well I think you're exactly right Jimmy

2789
02:12:28,330 --> 02:12:26,570
and and I'll try to explain a model that

2790
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:28,340
I think is kind of something that is

2791
02:12:33,850 --> 02:12:30,890
being supported by accumulating evidence

2792
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:33,860
it begins to make sense we've got a

2793
02:12:37,420 --> 02:12:35,570
solar system level and we have a

2794
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:37,430
galactic level and if we look at the

2795
02:12:42,700 --> 02:12:39,770
architecture of the solar system we see

2796
02:12:44,620 --> 02:12:42,710
we've got a zone of inner planets and we

2797
02:12:47,020 --> 02:12:44,630
have a zone of outer planets much larger

2798
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:47,030
outer planets which consist of Jupiter

2799
02:12:52,930 --> 02:12:49,730
Saturn Uranus and Neptune then if you

2800
02:12:55,390 --> 02:12:52,940
get outside the orbit of Neptune you get

2801
02:12:57,840 --> 02:12:55,400
into a zone called the Kuiper belt which

2802
02:13:00,720 --> 02:12:57,850
is a zone of billions of comets

2803
02:13:02,890 --> 02:13:00,730
presumably left over from the original

2804
02:13:06,820 --> 02:13:02,900
construction of the solar system

2805
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:06,830
now this belt of comets ranges from oh I

2806
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:10,010
think about 20 astronomical units out to

2807
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:13,970
maybe 200 astronomical units now an

2808
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:16,130
astronomical unit is the distance from

2809
02:13:21,610 --> 02:13:19,610
the earth to the Sun okay then going way

2810
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:21,620
beyond the Kuiper disk you get into

2811
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:24,890
another area of a disc that's part of

2812
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:28,330
the word cloud which is a hypothesized

2813
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:31,760
sphere of cometary bodies that surrounds

2814
02:13:37,810 --> 02:13:35,330
the solar system way I mean way out out

2815
02:13:40,330 --> 02:13:37,820
halfway to the nearest stars so you're

2816
02:13:42,750 --> 02:13:40,340
looking at even extending out thousands

2817
02:13:46,150 --> 02:13:42,760
of light-years and not like yours

2818
02:13:51,330 --> 02:13:46,160
astronomical units from the inner solar

2819
02:13:55,209 --> 02:13:51,340
system right now it's hypothesized upon

2820
02:13:59,890 --> 02:13:55,219
you know upon reasonable conjecture

2821
02:14:04,379 --> 02:13:59,900
that the word cloud is periodically

2822
02:14:07,060 --> 02:14:04,389
affected by events on the Galactic level

2823
02:14:09,069 --> 02:14:07,070
so because of the fact that the word

2824
02:14:11,219 --> 02:14:09,079
cloud is so far away it's it's only

2825
02:14:14,500 --> 02:14:11,229
loosely bound to the inner solar system

2826
02:14:19,109 --> 02:14:14,510
so it can be affected by the

2827
02:14:24,009 --> 02:14:19,119
gravitational pull of the galaxy or

2828
02:14:25,410 --> 02:14:24,019
passing stars possibly nova events you

2829
02:14:28,810 --> 02:14:25,420
know the fact that our solar system

2830
02:14:31,899 --> 02:14:28,820
wobbles up and down above and below the

2831
02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:31,909
Galactic plane the Galactic plane is the

2832
02:14:37,959 --> 02:14:34,610
area of greatest concentration of

2833
02:14:40,060 --> 02:14:37,969
greatest density of material so as our

2834
02:14:42,250 --> 02:14:40,070
solar system oscillates above and below

2835
02:14:46,149 --> 02:14:42,260
it's possible that these events on a

2836
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:46,159
galactic level or possibly to use the

2837
02:14:51,939 --> 02:14:49,760
scenario of palsy of electi which was

2838
02:14:54,430 --> 02:14:51,949
the galactic pulse that periodically

2839
02:14:55,419 --> 02:14:54,440
there are core explosions at the the

2840
02:14:57,819 --> 02:14:55,429
galactic center

2841
02:15:00,160 --> 02:14:57,829
whatever the cause whether it's a

2842
02:15:02,259 --> 02:15:00,170
passing star whether it's a nova event

2843
02:15:04,209 --> 02:15:02,269
whether it's the oscillation of the

2844
02:15:06,910 --> 02:15:04,219
solar system above and below the

2845
02:15:09,790 --> 02:15:06,920
Galactic plane whether it's galactic or

2846
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:09,800
explosions something on that level can

2847
02:15:14,439 --> 02:15:12,530
affect the word cloud and the stability

2848
02:15:16,959 --> 02:15:14,449
of comets in the Oort cloud know when

2849
02:15:19,810 --> 02:15:16,969
that happens when they become dislodged

2850
02:15:23,200 --> 02:15:19,820
from their orbits they begin to migrate

2851
02:15:25,540 --> 02:15:23,210
towards the inner solar system okay

2852
02:15:27,580 --> 02:15:25,550
now what can happen is they can become

2853
02:15:30,669 --> 02:15:27,590
short period comets or they can become

2854
02:15:33,009 --> 02:15:30,679
residents of the Kuiper belt which is

2855
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:33,019
this the zone now the disk of comets

2856
02:15:39,069 --> 02:15:35,690
that exist pretty much just outside the

2857
02:15:41,439 --> 02:15:39,079
orbit of Neptune right so now here's the

2858
02:15:44,529 --> 02:15:41,449
picture on the Galactic level comet can

2859
02:15:46,779 --> 02:15:44,539
be perturbed in the Oort cloud that can

2860
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:46,789
send a cascade of comets towards the

2861
02:15:50,469 --> 02:15:48,320
inner solar system now it may take

2862
02:15:52,270 --> 02:15:50,479
hundreds of thousands of years for them

2863
02:15:54,189 --> 02:15:52,280
to make that journey from way out there

2864
02:15:57,009 --> 02:15:54,199
especially because they're on long

2865
02:15:59,140 --> 02:15:57,019
spiraling orbits that each each passage

2866
02:16:01,629 --> 02:15:59,150
brings them in closer to the inner solar

2867
02:16:04,089 --> 02:16:01,639
system and closer to the Sun right and

2868
02:16:07,149 --> 02:16:04,099
then you have the Kuiper disk so the

2869
02:16:08,830 --> 02:16:07,159
Kuiper disk now is close enough that it

2870
02:16:10,990 --> 02:16:08,840
can be affected by

2871
02:16:13,870 --> 02:16:11,000
the outer planets and there's some very

2872
02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:13,880
interesting work that has been done what

2873
02:16:19,780 --> 02:16:15,670
were their names

2874
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:19,790
let's see Harold Levinson Boulder

2875
02:16:23,710 --> 02:16:22,010
Colorado let's see Martin Duncan who was

2876
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:23,720
with Queens University at Kingston

2877
02:16:29,050 --> 02:16:25,850
Ontario I'm trying to pull up my some

2878
02:16:32,860 --> 02:16:29,060
notes here yeah they published a very

2879
02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:32,870
results of a very interesting study go

2880
02:16:37,930 --> 02:16:35,450
back oh gosh it's been close to 15 years

2881
02:16:40,780 --> 02:16:37,940
now I think I don't remember the exact

2882
02:16:44,919 --> 02:16:40,790
date of it but they published their

2883
02:16:48,910 --> 02:16:44,929
studies which was a computer a very

2884
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:48,920
sophisticated computer study of how

2885
02:16:56,589 --> 02:16:53,599
comets end up being transferred into the

2886
02:16:59,230 --> 02:16:56,599
inner solar system where they can okay I

2887
02:17:02,950 --> 02:16:59,240
found it here let's see here's what it

2888
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:02,960
says with the existence of the Kuiper

2889
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:06,110
belt no longer in doubt this was gosh

2890
02:17:09,550 --> 02:17:08,210
published in science news I don't think

2891
02:17:11,680 --> 02:17:09,560
I have the date handy but it was about

2892
02:17:13,620 --> 02:17:11,690
15 years ago with the existence of the

2893
02:17:16,330 --> 02:17:13,630
Kuiper belt no longer in doubt

2894
02:17:18,209 --> 02:17:16,340
researchers have turned to another

2895
02:17:21,010 --> 02:17:18,219
question how do short period comets

2896
02:17:23,860 --> 02:17:21,020
leave this storehouse and how do they

2897
02:17:26,140 --> 02:17:23,870
venture into the inner solar system a

2898
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:26,150
year ago researchers provided the

2899
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:27,920
definitive answer to the first part of

2900
02:17:32,740 --> 02:17:30,410
the riddle in the simplest terms comets

2901
02:17:37,419 --> 02:17:32,750
leave the belt because it has a slow

2902
02:17:39,910 --> 02:17:37,429
leak so Martin Duncan Stewart and bud

2903
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:39,920
and Harold F Levison reported the

2904
02:17:45,510 --> 02:17:42,370
results of the most extensive computer

2905
02:17:50,770 --> 02:17:45,520
simulation ever done of the Kuiper belt

2906
02:17:53,169 --> 02:17:50,780
so what happens is this some of the

2907
02:17:56,020 --> 02:17:53,179
Comets that escaped from the Kuiper belt

2908
02:17:59,500 --> 02:17:56,030
move away from the solar system others

2909
02:18:01,870 --> 02:17:59,510
get flung in inward in the in towards

2910
02:18:04,690 --> 02:18:01,880
the orbit of Neptune now here I'll go

2911
02:18:06,730 --> 02:18:04,700
back to quoting the article here once a

2912
02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:06,740
comet falls into Neptune's gravitational

2913
02:18:12,700 --> 02:18:10,250
clutches the other large outer planets

2914
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:12,710
start to exert their own gravitational

2915
02:18:17,620 --> 02:18:15,770
influence in this way some comets from

2916
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:17,630
the Kuiper belt make their way toward

2917
02:18:21,730 --> 02:18:20,000
the inner solar system where they come

2918
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:21,740
alive in the sun's warm

2919
02:18:25,180 --> 02:18:23,120
now here's where it gets interesting

2920
02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:25,190
here's what their computer simulations

2921
02:18:31,300 --> 02:18:28,490
showed the new calculations by Levison &

2922
02:18:34,350 --> 02:18:31,310
duncan show the one shouldn't take such

2923
02:18:38,620 --> 02:18:34,360
a model for granted because it's only

2924
02:18:42,550 --> 02:18:38,630
because Neptune Uranus Saturn and

2925
02:18:45,670 --> 02:18:42,560
Jupiter are spaced exactly far enough

2926
02:18:48,940 --> 02:18:45,680
apart that each has a chance of handing

2927
02:18:51,220 --> 02:18:48,950
off a comet to the next and of course

2928
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:51,230
once that bucket brigade once that

2929
02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:53,930
handing off reaches Jupiter Jupiter you

2930
02:18:57,940 --> 02:18:55,850
know like the Greek god Jupiter hurling

2931
02:18:59,710 --> 02:18:57,950
his Thunderbolts hurls those comets

2932
02:19:02,710 --> 02:18:59,720
either towards the Sun or hurls them

2933
02:19:05,290 --> 02:19:02,720
back out into deep space now if they get

2934
02:19:07,600 --> 02:19:05,300
hurled towards the Sun what happens they

2935
02:19:11,080 --> 02:19:07,610
become activated they come out of their

2936
02:19:14,110 --> 02:19:11,090
their deep space hibernation and they

2937
02:19:16,090 --> 02:19:14,120
begin to basically come alive now if we

2938
02:19:18,730 --> 02:19:16,100
look at the lifecycle of a comet there's

2939
02:19:21,610 --> 02:19:18,740
basically five stages the original stage

2940
02:19:24,220 --> 02:19:21,620
was and the aggregation which was the

2941
02:19:26,380 --> 02:19:24,230
accretion of interstellar matter their

2942
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:26,390
condensation integration and final

2943
02:19:31,450 --> 02:19:28,880
ejection from the inner solar system and

2944
02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:31,460
this is what I refer to as the stone the

2945
02:19:36,690 --> 02:19:34,790
builders rejected and this is now what

2946
02:19:40,260 --> 02:19:36,700
sort forms the basis for the reservoir

2947
02:19:42,340 --> 02:19:40,270
of comets the second thing now is

2948
02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:42,350
hibernation because once they're in the

2949
02:19:46,090 --> 02:19:44,570
word cloud or the Kuiper disk they're so

2950
02:19:49,421 --> 02:19:46,100
far removed from the Sun that they go

2951
02:19:51,671 --> 02:19:49,431
into this state of deep freeze well the

2952
02:19:54,250 --> 02:19:51,681
third stage is activation when they

2953
02:19:56,921 --> 02:19:54,260
become perturbed by whatever source if

2954
02:19:59,440 --> 02:19:56,931
if it's the Oort cloud as I said to

2955
02:20:01,690 --> 02:19:59,450
perturbed on a galactic level if it's

2956
02:20:04,511 --> 02:20:01,700
the Kuiper disc the inner zone they get

2957
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:04,521
perturbed by get this conjunctions of

2958
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:07,010
the four outer planets right so we

2959
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:09,200
almost have like an astrological model

2960
02:20:13,211 --> 02:20:11,330
here when these four outer planets as

2961
02:20:14,770 --> 02:20:13,221
this computer simulation showed are in

2962
02:20:17,461 --> 02:20:14,780
the right position relative to each

2963
02:20:19,961 --> 02:20:17,471
other and their gravitational fields

2964
02:20:22,511 --> 02:20:19,971
feedback positively and amplify each

2965
02:20:24,310 --> 02:20:22,521
other they can they can capture these

2966
02:20:27,761 --> 02:20:24,320
comets and that's when the bucket

2967
02:20:30,820 --> 02:20:27,771
brigade starts when it goes from from

2968
02:20:32,770 --> 02:20:30,830
the outer from from Neptune into uranus

2969
02:20:34,780 --> 02:20:32,780
from uranus that hands it off to Saturn

2970
02:20:35,349 --> 02:20:34,790
Saturn and hands it off to Jupiter and

2971
02:20:37,659 --> 02:20:35,359
then

2972
02:20:39,939 --> 02:20:37,669
king of the planets either throws that

2973
02:20:42,369 --> 02:20:39,949
comet back out of the solar system or

2974
02:20:44,830 --> 02:20:42,379
throws it towards the Sun once it starts

2975
02:20:47,409 --> 02:20:44,840
moving towards the Sun once this orbital

2976
02:20:48,279 --> 02:20:47,419
transfer takes place and the Sun we're

2977
02:20:51,099 --> 02:20:48,289
journey begins

2978
02:20:53,979 --> 02:20:51,109
then the comet becomes active it starts

2979
02:20:56,260 --> 02:20:53,989
outgassing it forms a tail it begins its

2980
02:20:59,529 --> 02:20:56,270
first stages of transformation to a D

2981
02:21:01,929 --> 02:20:59,539
volatilized nuclei the next stages it

2982
02:21:04,540 --> 02:21:01,939
begins to undergo disintegration if it's

2983
02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:04,550
an icy matrix that will be vaporization

2984
02:21:08,469 --> 02:21:06,319
of the icy matrix there will be a

2985
02:21:10,630 --> 02:21:08,479
disintegration of the comet nucleus and

2986
02:21:12,729 --> 02:21:10,640
it will begin to form a meteor and dust

2987
02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:12,739
stream after successive orbits around

2988
02:21:18,790 --> 02:21:15,680
the Sun the final stage which I call

2989
02:21:22,149 --> 02:21:18,800
amalgamation is involve solar or

2990
02:21:23,769 --> 02:21:22,159
planetary encounters and this is if the

2991
02:21:26,349 --> 02:21:23,779
piece of a comet the piece of Duvall

2992
02:21:28,119 --> 02:21:26,359
Atal eyes nuclei it's a planet it

2993
02:21:28,960 --> 02:21:28,129
creates a crater so you have crater

2994
02:21:31,359 --> 02:21:28,970
formation

2995
02:21:34,149 --> 02:21:31,369
you also have raw material injection

2996
02:21:37,059 --> 02:21:34,159
into the Earth's atmosphere into the

2997
02:21:39,580 --> 02:21:37,069
hydrosphere into the lithosphere into

2998
02:21:42,819 --> 02:21:39,590
the biosphere and I think this provides

2999
02:21:45,369 --> 02:21:42,829
a primary stimulus to the extinction

3000
02:21:47,019 --> 02:21:45,379
evolution cycles that we see and we

3001
02:21:50,170 --> 02:21:47,029
could have a whole long discussion about

3002
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:50,180
these celestial influences on life here

3003
02:21:54,219 --> 02:21:52,010
below but I think that these represent

3004
02:21:56,679 --> 02:21:54,229
the five stages in the life cycle of a

3005
02:21:59,739 --> 02:21:56,689
comet and the final stage is that it can

3006
02:22:02,800 --> 02:21:59,749
form streams of dust it can form

3007
02:22:05,170 --> 02:22:02,810
meteorite streams um it can become part

3008
02:22:07,179 --> 02:22:05,180
of the family of sungrazing comets which

3009
02:22:09,250 --> 02:22:07,189
is like a new family of comets it's only

3010
02:22:11,949 --> 02:22:09,260
been discovered within the last decade

3011
02:22:14,979 --> 02:22:11,959
or so and which shows us that that

3012
02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:14,989
comets in the inner solar system there's

3013
02:22:18,639 --> 02:22:16,850
way way more of them than anybody

3014
02:22:21,460 --> 02:22:18,649
expected but a lot of them are invisible

3015
02:22:24,609 --> 02:22:21,470
and they're seen regularly falling into

3016
02:22:27,880 --> 02:22:24,619
the Sun and these are the Sun grazing

3017
02:22:31,029 --> 02:22:27,890
comets which again is a very new thing

3018
02:22:33,069 --> 02:22:31,039
but seems to be a potential trigger for

3019
02:22:35,739 --> 02:22:33,079
heightened solar activity if the

3020
02:22:38,519 --> 02:22:35,749
cometary mass plunging into the Sun is

3021
02:22:41,019 --> 02:22:38,529
big enough it may serve as a trigger

3022
02:22:43,569 --> 02:22:41,029
let's see in I'm pulling up something

3023
02:22:46,809 --> 02:22:43,579
else here my heavy do you know how heavy

3024
02:22:48,210 --> 02:22:46,819
of a thought that is you know to wrap

3025
02:22:50,729 --> 02:22:48,220
your mind around

3026
02:22:55,439 --> 02:22:50,739
and who would have considered this in

3027
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:55,449
the past that is very very fitting and

3028
02:23:02,189 --> 02:22:58,319
here's the really remarkable thing Jimmy

3029
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:02,199
we're talking about an architecture of a

3030
02:23:07,889 --> 02:23:05,470
solar system here because if if the

3031
02:23:09,719 --> 02:23:07,899
outer planets were not aligned exactly

3032
02:23:12,330 --> 02:23:09,729
as they were and by implication it also

3033
02:23:15,479 --> 02:23:12,340
is the the masses of them have to be

3034
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:15,489
exactly the same this orbital transfer

3035
02:23:21,719 --> 02:23:18,880
of comets could not happen well as we're

3036
02:23:24,029 --> 02:23:21,729
finding out comets may be the harbingers

3037
02:23:27,599 --> 02:23:24,039
of life on earth they probably are they

3038
02:23:30,689 --> 02:23:27,609
almost certainly are delivering the raw

3039
02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:30,699
materials for the formation of primitive

3040
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:33,310
and both primitive and higher life forms

3041
02:23:40,109 --> 02:23:36,399
so what's interesting here is the same

3042
02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:40,119
force the same celestial agency could be

3043
02:23:47,219 --> 02:23:45,220
not only the the destroyer of ecosystems

3044
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:47,229
to destroy our civilizations it could

3045
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:49,600
also be what triggers the birth of new

3046
02:23:56,449 --> 02:23:52,720
systems new eco systems by introducing

3047
02:23:59,849 --> 02:23:56,459
the raw material for genetic mutations

3048
02:24:01,830 --> 02:23:59,859
and we're beginning to find that kind of

3049
02:24:04,830 --> 02:24:01,840
evidence for example in the wake of the

3050
02:24:07,139 --> 02:24:04,840
Tunguska event of 1908 all kinds of

3051
02:24:10,559 --> 02:24:07,149
interesting genetic anomalies are being

3052
02:24:13,529 --> 02:24:10,569
discovered ever accelerated evolution

3053
02:24:15,210 --> 02:24:13,539
and so on and there's a whole science I

3054
02:24:17,880 --> 02:24:15,220
think that we're just on the very verge

3055
02:24:20,340 --> 02:24:17,890
of beginning to understand about the

3056
02:24:23,130 --> 02:24:20,350
relation of life that life is ultimately

3057
02:24:25,319 --> 02:24:23,140
cosmic in origin and not terrestrial and

3058
02:24:26,639 --> 02:24:25,329
see if that's the case Jimmy look what

3059
02:24:28,170 --> 02:24:26,649
we're sitting look over thinking about

3060
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:28,180
you when you start looking at the

3061
02:24:32,910 --> 02:24:30,090
architecture of the solar system you

3062
02:24:36,090 --> 02:24:32,920
can't change those parameters hardly at

3063
02:24:37,949 --> 02:24:36,100
all and the whole thing disappears all

3064
02:24:40,859 --> 02:24:37,959
of it life on Earth is gone right

3065
02:24:43,559 --> 02:24:40,869
everything that is this is issued from

3066
02:24:44,370 --> 02:24:43,569
primitive life in the oceans coming out

3067
02:24:47,609 --> 02:24:44,380
of the oceans

3068
02:24:50,699 --> 02:24:47,619
you know because think about this in

3069
02:24:52,679 --> 02:24:50,709
order to transfer life from the oceans

3070
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:52,689
from marine existence to a land-based

3071
02:24:57,179 --> 02:24:54,880
existence you have to have this interim

3072
02:24:59,519 --> 02:24:57,189
zone you have to have a transitionary

3073
02:25:02,099 --> 02:24:59,529
zone right what provides that

3074
02:25:04,170 --> 02:25:02,109
transitionary zone it's the intertidal

3075
02:25:06,809 --> 02:25:04,180
zone and what creates that intertidal

3076
02:25:09,689 --> 02:25:06,819
zone the tides and what creates the

3077
02:25:13,050 --> 02:25:09,699
tides the moon take the moon away and

3078
02:25:15,779 --> 02:25:13,060
you've got no way could get primitive

3079
02:25:19,979 --> 02:25:15,789
life out of the waters of the ocean onto

3080
02:25:24,300 --> 02:25:19,989
land so without getting too teleological

3081
02:25:26,809 --> 02:25:24,310
here I can't help but look at the what

3082
02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:26,819
would we say the Goldilocks conditions

3083
02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:30,399
of our solar system that have to be just

3084
02:25:35,790 --> 02:25:33,369
exactly right or none of this happens

3085
02:25:38,219 --> 02:25:35,800
you know if we were to Chloe if we were

3086
02:25:40,559 --> 02:25:38,229
a little bit closer to the Sun man it's

3087
02:25:42,090 --> 02:25:40,569
too hot that's really the whole planet

3088
02:25:43,739 --> 02:25:42,100
would become desert if we're a little

3089
02:25:45,809 --> 02:25:43,749
bit further away the whole planet

3090
02:25:47,580 --> 02:25:45,819
becomes locked in a permanent ice age if

3091
02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:47,590
we're a little bit smaller

3092
02:25:52,500 --> 02:25:50,350
well the gravitation field is too weak

3093
02:25:55,139 --> 02:25:52,510
right if we're a little bit bigger the

3094
02:25:57,059 --> 02:25:55,149
gravitational field is too big and too

3095
02:25:59,460 --> 02:25:57,069
great and we would basically never get

3096
02:26:02,519 --> 02:25:59,470
beyond we would all be slugs we would be

3097
02:26:04,739 --> 02:26:02,529
slugs now having this conversation but

3098
02:26:07,050 --> 02:26:04,749
you see what I'm getting into is once we

3099
02:26:10,019 --> 02:26:07,060
start defining the parameters we realize

3100
02:26:13,369 --> 02:26:10,029
that God darn it looks like this whole

3101
02:26:15,989 --> 02:26:13,379
system was designed or the most bizarre

3102
02:26:18,569 --> 02:26:15,999
accident and how many times could this

3103
02:26:20,699 --> 02:26:18,579
accident have occurred in the galaxy or

3104
02:26:24,599 --> 02:26:20,709
even in the universe I have no idea I

3105
02:26:26,279 --> 02:26:24,609
don't we've got three minutes to the

3106
02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:26,289
break two minutes I want to get this

3107
02:26:29,489 --> 02:26:28,090
thought out and what I'm gonna keep you

3108
02:26:34,139 --> 02:26:29,499
for overtime you're not going to go to

3109
02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:34,149
bed yet is is this after every mass

3110
02:26:40,050 --> 02:26:36,970
extinction that we had on this planet

3111
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:40,060
and some of them were huge were 90 you

3112
02:26:47,340 --> 02:26:42,850
know five 90 percent of everything died

3113
02:26:49,309 --> 02:26:47,350
yeah everything we had every tens of

3114
02:26:51,989 --> 02:26:49,319
thousands if not millions of species

3115
02:26:54,989 --> 02:26:51,999
sprouted up overnight so how did they

3116
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:54,999
get here how did that happen you know I

3117
02:27:01,409 --> 02:26:57,520
could it have been a comet was there

3118
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:01,419
some kind of cosmic event where we just

3119
02:27:08,090 --> 02:27:05,770
got receded overnight well have you

3120
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:08,100
heard of the theory of panspermia

3121
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:12,090
absolutely of course you have yeah now

3122
02:27:15,780 --> 02:27:14,409
which is certainly I think a very

3123
02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:15,790
plausible is

3124
02:27:21,330 --> 02:27:18,490
any as through the origin of life on

3125
02:27:23,940 --> 02:27:21,340
earth now of course a sceptic could say

3126
02:27:25,740 --> 02:27:23,950
well then how do you explain the the

3127
02:27:28,110 --> 02:27:25,750
source of life even if it's cosmic an

3128
02:27:30,900 --> 02:27:28,120
the answer quite honestly is I don't

3129
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:30,910
know and nobody else knows all we can do

3130
02:27:34,800 --> 02:27:33,250
is speculate you know I great to cultist

3131
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:34,810
at the early part of the 20th century

3132
02:27:38,610 --> 02:27:37,030
said well it was just it was all the

3133
02:27:41,370 --> 02:27:38,620
miracle at the beginning and everything

3134
02:27:42,810 --> 02:27:41,380
since then has been physics right so we

3135
02:27:44,310 --> 02:27:42,820
can push it back to them whatever the

3136
02:27:45,900 --> 02:27:44,320
beginning of the universe and yeah

3137
02:27:48,660 --> 02:27:45,910
nobody can explain that nobody can

3138
02:27:50,910 --> 02:27:48,670
explain what existed before the universe

3139
02:27:53,370 --> 02:27:50,920
you know what does it even mean to ask

3140
02:27:55,890 --> 02:27:53,380
that question what existed before time

3141
02:27:57,840 --> 02:27:55,900
what existed before space you know it

3142
02:28:00,360 --> 02:27:57,850
I don't usually even go there because

3143
02:28:02,460 --> 02:28:00,370
I'm you know I'm gonna leave that to the

3144
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:02,470
cosmologists I've got to stick a little

3145
02:28:06,930 --> 02:28:04,810
closer to home so I've kind of put my

3146
02:28:14,190 --> 02:28:06,940
limits you know at the medical acta clev

3147
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:14,200
'l I don't have not even control limit

3148
02:28:19,170 --> 02:28:17,170
somewhere no you don't Randall and this

3149
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:19,180
the second and we start putting limits

3150
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:21,490
on asking questions and and and

3151
02:28:27,511 --> 02:28:24,370
pondering the existence of everything we

3152
02:28:36,330 --> 02:28:27,521
lose so don't stop and let's continue at

3153
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:36,340
O break our guest tonight the one and

3154
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:38,170
only Randall Carlson we're gonna do some

3155
02:28:40,350 --> 02:28:39,460
overtime right here we're gonna pick

3156
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:40,360
this when we come back

3157
02:28:45,900 --> 02:28:42,640
listen Randall I just got a couple of a

3158
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:45,910
text and an email and a tweet saying we

3159
02:28:52,050 --> 02:28:49,120
can't let the recap structure go so

3160
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:52,060
let's say I wrote it down we'll come

3161
02:28:54,210 --> 02:28:54,010
back and discuss that this is fade to

3162
02:28:56,761 --> 02:28:54,220
black

3163
02:29:00,200 --> 02:28:56,771
oh yes tonight Randall Carlson I'll be

3164
02:29:00,210 --> 02:29:13,581
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3165
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:16,411
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3166
02:29:24,530 --> 02:29:19,120
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3167
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3168
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3170
02:29:43,340 --> 02:29:40,890
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3171
02:29:45,649 --> 02:29:43,350
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3172
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3173
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3174
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3192
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3193
02:30:38,899 --> 02:30:35,880
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3194
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02:33:24,550 --> 02:33:36,350
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3248
02:33:40,560 --> 02:33:38,670
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3249
02:33:42,330 --> 02:33:40,570
of the church our guest tonight Randall

3250
02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:42,340
Carlson we're gonna roll this thing into

3251
02:33:49,820 --> 02:33:43,810
doing some overtime we'll try to get

3252
02:33:52,170 --> 02:33:49,830
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3253
02:33:53,700 --> 02:33:52,180
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3254
02:33:55,140 --> 02:33:53,710
links for that or over at a Jimmy Church

3255
02:33:57,450 --> 02:33:55,150
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3256
02:34:03,000 --> 02:33:57,460
whole thing and just click it's very

3257
02:34:08,570 --> 02:34:03,010
simple Randall years ago I somebody led

3258
02:34:14,219 --> 02:34:08,580
me to the recap structure over in

3259
02:34:18,620 --> 02:34:14,229
Mauritania yeah and and I remember back

3260
02:34:22,740 --> 02:34:18,630
then goofing around on Google Maps and

3261
02:34:25,140 --> 02:34:22,750
and I saw this thing in Africa you know

3262
02:34:27,030 --> 02:34:25,150
and I'm just rolling around Africa right

3263
02:34:28,410 --> 02:34:27,040
you know whatever go into a geesa and

3264
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:28,420
you know just doing the things that you

3265
02:34:33,960 --> 02:34:32,110
do and in satellite and I see it and I

3266
02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:33,970
went oh that's what you know and I zoom

3267
02:34:39,600 --> 02:34:36,490
and you can see it is one of the most

3268
02:34:42,930 --> 02:34:39,610
incredible structures anywhere on this

3269
02:34:44,430 --> 02:34:42,940
planet it should be discussed we should

3270
02:34:48,930 --> 02:34:44,440
have talked about it at the beginning of

3271
02:34:51,380 --> 02:34:48,940
this show you know terrain what is going

3272
02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:51,390
on there what is it

3273
02:34:57,630 --> 02:34:54,370
well I think initially when it was first

3274
02:35:00,270 --> 02:34:57,640
seen during the early days of the space

3275
02:35:03,210 --> 02:35:00,280
program let's see was it seen not you're

3276
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:03,220
probably back in the early 70s maybe you

3277
02:35:08,390 --> 02:35:05,410
know even even the late sixties because

3278
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:08,400
I know that Robert Dietz was one of the

3279
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:13,450
premier astronomers studying meteorite

3280
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:15,760
impacts back in the sixties and I know

3281
02:35:20,400 --> 02:35:17,770
he he wrote an article on it that I

3282
02:35:22,650 --> 02:35:20,410
think came out in 1968 and of course

3283
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:22,660
initially because of the multi ringed

3284
02:35:27,660 --> 02:35:25,090
nature of the structure it was proposed

3285
02:35:30,150 --> 02:35:27,670
as being the result of the some type of

3286
02:35:32,700 --> 02:35:30,160
an impact probably a an asteroid right

3287
02:35:35,190 --> 02:35:32,710
because impacts into the crust leave

3288
02:35:37,770 --> 02:35:35,200
multi ring structures and there was

3289
02:35:39,930 --> 02:35:37,780
material that looked like the type of

3290
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:39,940
shock material that you find associated

3291
02:35:44,370 --> 02:35:42,610
with those types of impacts on in this

3292
02:35:45,540 --> 02:35:44,380
case the material was called koa site

3293
02:35:47,729 --> 02:35:45,550
and so it seemed like when they

3294
02:35:50,159 --> 02:35:47,739
discovered the shock material

3295
02:35:52,769 --> 02:35:50,169
that was a clincher that it was impact

3296
02:35:54,420 --> 02:35:52,779
produced however other geologists came

3297
02:35:57,029 --> 02:35:54,430
along later took a closer look and

3298
02:35:59,579 --> 02:35:57,039
didn't believe that the koa site the

3299
02:36:02,670 --> 02:35:59,589
shocked minerals that they presumably

3300
02:36:04,260 --> 02:36:02,680
found were in fact shocked minerals the

3301
02:36:06,239 --> 02:36:04,270
subsequent studies seem to have

3302
02:36:08,519 --> 02:36:06,249
suggested that it was not impact

3303
02:36:11,399 --> 02:36:08,529
produced but that it was likely produced

3304
02:36:13,859 --> 02:36:11,409
from upwelling pressure in a

3305
02:36:16,769 --> 02:36:13,869
hydrothermal vent below which created

3306
02:36:20,510 --> 02:36:16,779
basically a large bubble picture if you

3307
02:36:23,519 --> 02:36:20,520
can bubble that's now like 30 miles wide

3308
02:36:25,949 --> 02:36:23,529
probably thousands of feet high with

3309
02:36:28,369 --> 02:36:25,959
multiple layers in it and this bubble

3310
02:36:31,289 --> 02:36:28,379
because of the the pressure from below

3311
02:36:35,389 --> 02:36:31,299
raises up causes the crust to bulge out

3312
02:36:37,409 --> 02:36:35,399
right so now this undergoes a lot of

3313
02:36:39,029 --> 02:36:37,419
metamorphism because of the intense

3314
02:36:42,269 --> 02:36:39,039
pressure of the uplift but then it

3315
02:36:45,689 --> 02:36:42,279
pretty much solidifies in that state and

3316
02:36:47,969 --> 02:36:45,699
then over millions of years in this case

3317
02:36:51,539 --> 02:36:47,979
because most of the rock there are

3318
02:36:53,369 --> 02:36:51,549
limestone dolomite switch our have been

3319
02:36:55,409 --> 02:36:53,379
dated to the Ordovician period which

3320
02:36:57,749 --> 02:36:55,419
puts them at about 400 million years old

3321
02:37:00,359 --> 02:36:57,759
now if you can picture a bubble a

3322
02:37:03,420 --> 02:37:00,369
layered bubble rising up and then you

3323
02:37:05,939 --> 02:37:03,430
hear the top of that bubble off and what

3324
02:37:08,159 --> 02:37:05,949
it's doing is exposing the layers that

3325
02:37:10,559 --> 02:37:08,169
have been up thrust that the in

3326
02:37:14,279 --> 02:37:10,569
geological terms are dipping towards the

3327
02:37:15,989 --> 02:37:14,289
outside of the structure so there is you

3328
02:37:20,909 --> 02:37:15,999
know some discussion now whether or not

3329
02:37:23,219 --> 02:37:20,919
that could be Atlantis I don't believe

3330
02:37:27,809 --> 02:37:23,229
it was Atlantis because I don't think it

3331
02:37:29,279 --> 02:37:27,819
fits plato's narrative in many ways but

3332
02:37:31,949 --> 02:37:29,289
it is certainly an interesting and

3333
02:37:33,899 --> 02:37:31,959
enigmatic structure mostly the rocks are

3334
02:37:36,689 --> 02:37:33,909
lime stones like I said dolomite there

3335
02:37:40,649 --> 02:37:36,699
are some mud stones there's some sand

3336
02:37:43,199 --> 02:37:40,659
stones what else I think it's mostly

3337
02:37:45,569 --> 02:37:43,209
those kind of five types of rocks which

3338
02:37:47,999 --> 02:37:45,579
are you know all natural rocks that form

3339
02:37:50,279 --> 02:37:48,009
but see underneath the thing are these

3340
02:37:52,229 --> 02:37:50,289
hydrothermal vents and these kimberlite

3341
02:37:55,019 --> 02:37:52,239
pipes or their kimberlite pipe which is

3342
02:37:56,760 --> 02:37:55,029
where you know a lot of the diamond

3343
02:37:58,889 --> 02:37:56,770
mines today are in these kimberlite

3344
02:38:00,990 --> 02:37:58,899
pipes where you have tremendous pressure

3345
02:38:03,270 --> 02:38:01,000
upwelling from below

3346
02:38:05,850 --> 02:38:03,280
so underneath the recant structure

3347
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:05,860
there's a plumbing system see which to

3348
02:38:10,980 --> 02:38:08,410
me clearly points out that whatever its

3349
02:38:14,010 --> 02:38:10,990
origin it's natural and so I'm inclined

3350
02:38:19,020 --> 02:38:14,020
now to believe that it is an energetic

3351
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:19,030
endo genic consequence of an endo genic

3352
02:38:23,190 --> 02:38:21,730
process something along the lines of

3353
02:38:26,340 --> 02:38:23,200
what I just described and I think that's

3354
02:38:29,070 --> 02:38:26,350
conforms more or less to what most of

3355
02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:29,080
the recent studies abetters have been a

3356
02:38:31,890 --> 02:38:30,160
few studies on it

3357
02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:31,900
oh that have come out in the last few

3358
02:38:37,140 --> 02:38:34,180
years and I would have to refresh myself

3359
02:38:39,150 --> 02:38:37,150
on it but well you know what I find

3360
02:38:42,060 --> 02:38:39,160
fascinating there's like three points

3361
02:38:45,450 --> 02:38:42,070
that for me stick out here one there's

3362
02:38:51,420 --> 02:38:45,460
not even a road going to it right it's

3363
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:51,430
so remote it's not really investigated

3364
02:38:58,170 --> 02:38:54,880
or it is you know a little bit but it's

3365
02:38:59,610 --> 02:38:58,180
so remote nobody goes to it that's the

3366
02:39:02,490 --> 02:38:59,620
first thing and I find that very

3367
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:02,500
interesting the second thing when I look

3368
02:39:08,250 --> 02:39:04,810
at all of these pictures I've had taken

3369
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:08,260
over the years it looks to me like it

3370
02:39:14,820 --> 02:39:12,010
could have been what probably was for

3371
02:39:17,550 --> 02:39:14,830
sure surrounded by water and it looks

3372
02:39:21,870 --> 02:39:17,560
like it's been draining out on the on

3373
02:39:23,700 --> 02:39:21,880
the southern southwestern I would say

3374
02:39:25,500 --> 02:39:23,710
seven o'clock I think is the right

3375
02:39:29,870 --> 02:39:25,510
number I want to kind of pick out here

3376
02:39:32,580 --> 02:39:29,880
and it's been draining out to the ocean

3377
02:39:35,400 --> 02:39:32,590
for a year it looks like there's a river

3378
02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:35,410
that that reaches out to the west side

3379
02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:37,210
of Africa

3380
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:40,450
that's what it looks to me Atlantis

3381
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:44,080
possibly could be and I understand why

3382
02:39:48,660 --> 02:39:46,930
that's a thought but it definitely looks

3383
02:39:51,810 --> 02:39:48,670
like it was surrounded by water at some

3384
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:51,820
point oh I think clearly it was it at

3385
02:39:56,190 --> 02:39:53,530
some point and you know the fact that

3386
02:39:58,470 --> 02:39:56,200
what we're seeing going back to the

3387
02:40:01,170 --> 02:39:58,480
bubble analogy before what we're seeing

3388
02:40:03,150 --> 02:40:01,180
is the core of that bubble you know if

3389
02:40:04,740 --> 02:40:03,160
you picture let's see what tonight what

3390
02:40:07,050 --> 02:40:04,750
could I use as an analogy that the

3391
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:07,060
listener could could visualize do you

3392
02:40:11,370 --> 02:40:09,520
think of any spiracle ball and think of

3393
02:40:14,130 --> 02:40:11,380
everybody seemed pictures of the earth

3394
02:40:14,940 --> 02:40:14,140
right and how you've got the lithosphere

3395
02:40:16,890 --> 02:40:14,950
the ISTE knows

3396
02:40:19,381 --> 02:40:16,900
fear the mantle the core and it's off

3397
02:40:22,470 --> 02:40:19,391
it's layered right well imagine a sphere

3398
02:40:24,990 --> 02:40:22,480
with a bunch of layers and then you

3399
02:40:28,051 --> 02:40:25,000
basically dekappa you cut off like the

3400
02:40:30,390 --> 02:40:28,061
top say 3/5 of that sphere and you

3401
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:30,400
expose now what you would be looking at

3402
02:40:37,500 --> 02:40:32,650
would be rings can you can you visualize

3403
02:40:39,470 --> 02:40:37,510
that I'm looking at it yes yes okay you

3404
02:40:41,850 --> 02:40:39,480
would see rings and that's what we're

3405
02:40:44,551 --> 02:40:41,860
looking at there and that seems I think

3406
02:40:46,551 --> 02:40:44,561
50 the evidence because of the fact that

3407
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:46,561
this kimberlite pipe being underneath it

3408
02:40:52,860 --> 02:40:49,200
suggested yes there was a magnetic

3409
02:40:55,350 --> 02:40:52,870
magmatic upwelling that then created

3410
02:40:58,470 --> 02:40:55,360
immense pressure below the crust and

3411
02:41:00,450 --> 02:40:58,480
caused the crust to bulge up now over

3412
02:41:03,570 --> 02:41:00,460
succession of millions of years and

3413
02:41:06,450 --> 02:41:03,580
possibly even with catastrophic flooding

3414
02:41:09,921 --> 02:41:06,460
water would have been the primary agent

3415
02:41:13,890 --> 02:41:09,931
in roading away the top of that bubble

3416
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:13,900
exposing the rings below you see and if

3417
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:16,800
it's consistent with what I believe the

3418
02:41:23,011 --> 02:41:19,870
geological record shows there have been

3419
02:41:25,320 --> 02:41:23,021
a succession of just as Plato describes

3420
02:41:27,301 --> 02:41:25,330
a succession of gigantic floods that

3421
02:41:29,131 --> 02:41:27,311
have occurred through time and this was

3422
02:41:31,470 --> 02:41:29,141
part of the tradition that was being

3423
02:41:33,570 --> 02:41:31,480
handed down by the Egyptian priests to

3424
02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:33,580
Seoul on who was the one who carried the

3425
02:41:38,460 --> 02:41:36,610
original story of Atlantis back to eat

3426
02:41:41,250 --> 02:41:38,470
it back to Greece

3427
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:41,260
and they describe I see the thing I

3428
02:41:46,020 --> 02:41:43,840
think that has brought about people

3429
02:41:48,390 --> 02:41:46,030
making this correlation is the the ring

3430
02:41:51,390 --> 02:41:48,400
like structure right because Plato

3431
02:41:54,421 --> 02:41:51,400
describes a Multi ring structure that

3432
02:41:57,120 --> 02:41:54,431
was the city core of the of Atlantis

3433
02:41:59,131 --> 02:41:57,130
however I mean the dimensions he uses

3434
02:42:00,990 --> 02:41:59,141
are not really consistent with the recap

3435
02:42:04,740 --> 02:42:01,000
structure the recod structure is much

3436
02:42:08,551 --> 02:42:04,750
much bigger then then the the raine

3437
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:08,561
structure that Plato describes in in the

3438
02:42:14,040 --> 02:42:12,010
Cretaceous which is a I would highly

3439
02:42:16,470 --> 02:42:14,050
recommend anybody who is interested in

3440
02:42:19,140 --> 02:42:16,480
this kind of thing it's mandatory that

3441
02:42:22,171 --> 02:42:19,150
you read the to play those two dialogues

3442
02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:22,181
Timaeus and Critias because that there's

3443
02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:24,010
so much packed into those two short

3444
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:25,510
dialogues about everything we've been

3445
02:42:31,690 --> 02:42:27,010
talking about

3446
02:42:33,519 --> 02:42:31,700
that it's definitely on the prerequisite

3447
02:42:36,130 --> 02:42:33,529
list for anybody who is interested in

3448
02:42:38,260 --> 02:42:36,140
ancient traditions or ancient mythology

3449
02:42:42,099 --> 02:42:38,270
or ancient tradition ancient mysteries

3450
02:42:44,380 --> 02:42:42,109
etc so my take on the recap structure is

3451
02:42:46,240 --> 02:42:44,390
it it's intergenic its natural it may

3452
02:42:48,700 --> 02:42:46,250
have been catastrophic it probably was

3453
02:42:50,889 --> 02:42:48,710
catastrophic we know that there was a

3454
02:42:53,170 --> 02:42:50,899
major one of the major mass extinctions

3455
02:42:55,389 --> 02:42:53,180
during the Ordovician now I don't know

3456
02:42:57,370 --> 02:42:55,399
if that would be associated with the

3457
02:43:01,120 --> 02:42:57,380
forces that created the recap structure

3458
02:43:03,070 --> 02:43:01,130
but it certainly is plausible see but

3459
02:43:05,620 --> 02:43:03,080
yes and then then the fact that it's

3460
02:43:07,870 --> 02:43:05,630
highly erosive it reminds me a lot of

3461
02:43:10,330 --> 02:43:07,880
upheaval dome in Utah which was a

3462
02:43:12,370 --> 02:43:10,340
bearing structure probably impact

3463
02:43:15,429 --> 02:43:12,380
produced but they're still arguing

3464
02:43:17,170 --> 02:43:15,439
whether it was a dome from pressure

3465
02:43:19,719 --> 02:43:17,180
below or whether it was created from

3466
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:19,729
above but in either case you have a

3467
02:43:26,260 --> 02:43:22,399
multi ring structure that was exposed to

3468
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:26,270
the basically to the light of day by

3469
02:43:31,690 --> 02:43:29,090
these intense erosional processes that

3470
02:43:34,300 --> 02:43:31,700
stripped away hundreds or even thousands

3471
02:43:36,340 --> 02:43:34,310
of feet of rock exposing the core of

3472
02:43:39,519 --> 02:43:36,350
this thing anybody wants to check it out

3473
02:43:42,700 --> 02:43:39,529
they can look up upheaval dome Utah on

3474
02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:42,710
Google you know on Google on Google

3475
02:43:47,099 --> 02:43:44,810
Earth and you'll see this really

3476
02:43:50,920 --> 02:43:47,109
incredible looking multi ring structure

3477
02:43:54,210 --> 02:43:50,930
which possibly similar in formation to

3478
02:43:57,130 --> 02:43:54,220
the recatch structure in Mauritania now

3479
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:57,140
having been an astute student of plate

3480
02:44:02,530 --> 02:43:59,600
on particularly of his dialogues

3481
02:44:04,840 --> 02:44:02,540
concerning Atlantis I don't find enough

3482
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:04,850
points of correlation between the two to

3483
02:44:13,450 --> 02:44:09,050
attribute recapped to being Atlantis has

3484
02:44:16,809 --> 02:44:13,460
anybody done a dig there you know

3485
02:44:19,210 --> 02:44:16,819
looking for any signs of ancient life or

3486
02:44:21,820 --> 02:44:19,220
civilizations any structures well I'm

3487
02:44:23,679 --> 02:44:21,830
presuming that yes they have yes some

3488
02:44:24,880 --> 02:44:23,689
have there are the geologists visit

3489
02:44:27,010 --> 02:44:24,890
that's how they know that the lime

3490
02:44:28,240 --> 02:44:27,020
stones are already chien for example

3491
02:44:30,790 --> 02:44:28,250
because they've gone there and taken

3492
02:44:32,650 --> 02:44:30,800
samples and looked at the the creatures

3493
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:32,660
that are forming the limestone because

3494
02:44:38,979 --> 02:44:36,319
you know limestone forms it's it's a it

3495
02:44:40,090 --> 02:44:38,989
forms submarine it forms under water it

3496
02:44:43,899 --> 02:44:40,100
forms under oath

3497
02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:43,909
by this the the carcasses of the small

3498
02:44:49,120 --> 02:44:46,970
sea life settling to the bottom of the

3499
02:44:52,240 --> 02:44:49,130
ocean and in becoming compacted and

3500
02:44:55,149 --> 02:44:52,250
eventually forming these limestone rocks

3501
02:44:57,849 --> 02:44:55,159
which are sedimentary rocks so there are

3502
02:45:00,490 --> 02:44:57,859
extensive lime stones and those lime

3503
02:45:02,769 --> 02:45:00,500
stones have been sampled so you know

3504
02:45:03,820 --> 02:45:02,779
it's very plausible that people occupy

3505
02:45:06,040 --> 02:45:03,830
you think that it would have been a

3506
02:45:07,929 --> 02:45:06,050
probably a likely place some time or

3507
02:45:10,300 --> 02:45:07,939
another for people to occupy and it

3508
02:45:13,210 --> 02:45:10,310
probably held lakes but I have not seen

3509
02:45:15,460 --> 02:45:13,220
any studies yet getting into that level

3510
02:45:19,210 --> 02:45:15,470
of detail like you said it's a structure

3511
02:45:22,300 --> 02:45:19,220
that is worthy of more study and more

3512
02:45:24,519 --> 02:45:22,310
research than it's had and I hope to see

3513
02:45:26,590 --> 02:45:24,529
that you know in the next few years I do

3514
02:45:28,660 --> 02:45:26,600
think it's very plausible that it held

3515
02:45:30,609 --> 02:45:28,670
lakes that there were rivers out flowing

3516
02:45:33,070 --> 02:45:30,619
from it and that it was probably habitat

3517
02:45:35,139 --> 02:45:33,080
human habitation along the shores of

3518
02:45:38,260 --> 02:45:35,149
those lakes and rivers it's bad zone

3519
02:45:39,939 --> 02:45:38,270
however yeah however make the connection

3520
02:45:42,219 --> 02:45:39,949
with Atlantis other than the fact that

3521
02:45:44,380 --> 02:45:42,229
you have multi ring structures in both

3522
02:45:47,080 --> 02:45:44,390
cases right now I will say this the

3523
02:45:49,330 --> 02:45:47,090
plato's model for Atlantis may have been

3524
02:45:52,719 --> 02:45:49,340
derived from observations of natural

3525
02:45:57,219 --> 02:45:52,729
multi ring structures that's right and

3526
02:45:59,830 --> 02:45:57,229
when you look at northern Africa in in

3527
02:46:02,290 --> 02:45:59,840
Google Earth and satellite there's a

3528
02:46:04,870 --> 02:46:02,300
couple of things that stand out that are

3529
02:46:07,719 --> 02:46:04,880
very visible right the Nile and the Nile

3530
02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:07,729
Valley and the recatch structure it's

3531
02:46:14,800 --> 02:46:11,210
that big I mean is enormous it's just

3532
02:46:17,769 --> 02:46:14,810
it's it's incredible about 30 miles in

3533
02:46:20,080 --> 02:46:17,779
diameter it's 30 miles and damage it be

3534
02:46:24,340 --> 02:46:20,090
about 30 miles in diameter so yeah

3535
02:46:26,500 --> 02:46:24,350
that's that's big and now before we get

3536
02:46:29,080 --> 02:46:26,510
out of here I wanted to ask you one

3537
02:46:31,149 --> 02:46:29,090
other thing and I was discussing this

3538
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:31,159
with Edie the other day when we are

3539
02:46:37,059 --> 02:46:33,770
talking about the cosmology of

3540
02:46:41,370 --> 02:46:37,069
everything at the zodiac the the timing

3541
02:46:45,160 --> 02:46:41,380
of certain celestial events with

3542
02:46:48,790 --> 02:46:45,170
cataclysms here on earth is there a way

3543
02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:48,800
to use it to take a look at the future

3544
02:46:52,019 --> 02:46:51,050
and maybe predict when something may

3545
02:46:55,179 --> 02:46:52,029
happen

3546
02:47:00,599 --> 02:46:55,189
well the problem with that is is we're

3547
02:47:04,090 --> 02:47:00,609
looking at two to which I say two tempos

3548
02:47:07,150 --> 02:47:04,100
juxtaposed on each other one seems to be

3549
02:47:09,010 --> 02:47:07,160
just totally random right there are

3550
02:47:11,320 --> 02:47:09,020
random changes that occurred that are

3551
02:47:12,939 --> 02:47:11,330
totally unpredictable on the other hand

3552
02:47:15,400 --> 02:47:12,949
there are changes that are predictable

3553
02:47:17,290 --> 02:47:15,410
for example I'm bringing it into a scale

3554
02:47:20,170 --> 02:47:17,300
that a more human scale at somebody

3555
02:47:22,420 --> 02:47:20,180
might be able to understand okay we can

3556
02:47:26,019 --> 02:47:22,430
predict with a fair degree of confidence

3557
02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:26,029
now that you know winter is upon us now

3558
02:47:31,660 --> 02:47:29,449
whatever region of the world that you

3559
02:47:34,210 --> 02:47:31,670
live in like for example I'm in North

3560
02:47:36,790 --> 02:47:34,220
Georgia so I know that we're probably

3561
02:47:39,010 --> 02:47:36,800
going to get a number of nights below

3562
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:39,020
freezing we know that it's probably

3563
02:47:45,400 --> 02:47:43,130
going to be sometime between now and mid

3564
02:47:47,439 --> 02:47:45,410
to semper that that happens well we can

3565
02:47:49,689 --> 02:47:47,449
pinpoint we can make some prediction up

3566
02:47:52,929 --> 02:47:49,699
to probably within a few weeks plus or

3567
02:47:55,300 --> 02:47:52,939
minus but to pinpoint the exact date no

3568
02:47:56,950 --> 02:47:55,310
that would be very difficult what we can

3569
02:47:59,830 --> 02:47:56,960
do is we can look at the picture and we

3570
02:48:02,080 --> 02:47:59,840
can get a range of possibilities and we

3571
02:48:04,120 --> 02:48:02,090
can say well if we look back over the

3572
02:48:06,219 --> 02:48:04,130
last roughly hundred and five thousand

3573
02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:06,229
years it appears that there have been

3574
02:48:13,389 --> 02:48:10,000
four periods of glaciation interspersed

3575
02:48:16,719 --> 02:48:13,399
with periods shorter periods of inter

3576
02:48:19,780 --> 02:48:16,729
glaciation if we go back even a quarter

3577
02:48:21,729 --> 02:48:19,790
million years we find that the problem

3578
02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:21,739
is as the record gets older it gets more

3579
02:48:26,519 --> 02:48:23,840
obscure but we can still see that

3580
02:48:29,229 --> 02:48:26,529
there's this oscillation this this

3581
02:48:30,969 --> 02:48:29,239
shifting from glacial ages to

3582
02:48:34,260 --> 02:48:30,979
interglacial ages we are now in an

3583
02:48:36,820 --> 02:48:34,270
interglacial age right now if we go back

3584
02:48:40,559 --> 02:48:36,830
roughly two and a half to 2.6 million

3585
02:48:43,630 --> 02:48:40,569
years ago we see major transition right

3586
02:48:45,939 --> 02:48:43,640
Pliocene gateway to the Pleistocene the

3587
02:48:49,420 --> 02:48:45,949
end of the Pliocene was a long period of

3588
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:49,430
pretty much stable warmth something

3589
02:48:53,950 --> 02:48:50,960
happened around two and a half million

3590
02:48:56,920 --> 02:48:53,960
years ago that caused a major planetary

3591
02:49:01,150 --> 02:48:56,930
environmental shift and this oscillation

3592
02:49:03,639 --> 02:49:01,160
of glacial interglacial ages began it

3593
02:49:05,530 --> 02:49:03,649
dominated the climatic cycle for the

3594
02:49:08,710 --> 02:49:05,540
whole of the Pleistocene too

3595
02:49:11,230 --> 02:49:08,720
1/2 million years now according to some

3596
02:49:13,511 --> 02:49:11,240
thought it ended you know eleven

3597
02:49:15,730 --> 02:49:13,521
thousand six hundred years ago others

3598
02:49:18,730 --> 02:49:15,740
have questioned well has it really ended

3599
02:49:20,950 --> 02:49:18,740
or are we still in the oscillating cycle

3600
02:49:22,390 --> 02:49:20,960
of glacial interglacial ages no one has

3601
02:49:23,950 --> 02:49:22,400
an answer to that question at this point

3602
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:23,960
here's one thing we do know though

3603
02:49:27,700 --> 02:49:26,000
looking at the record it has been

3604
02:49:30,490 --> 02:49:27,710
reconstructed of last quarter million

3605
02:49:33,310 --> 02:49:30,500
years which is based upon ice core

3606
02:49:36,280 --> 02:49:33,320
records from from Greenland from Tibet

3607
02:49:38,470 --> 02:49:36,290
from Antarctica from deep-sea coral

3608
02:49:42,340 --> 02:49:38,480
records taken from in the Atlantic in

3609
02:49:44,860 --> 02:49:42,350
the Pacific in the Arctic Ocean in in

3610
02:49:47,050 --> 02:49:44,870
the speleothems formation in caves which

3611
02:49:49,690 --> 02:49:47,060
is dependent upon the amount of water

3612
02:49:51,720 --> 02:49:49,700
and percolating through the rock which

3613
02:49:54,160 --> 02:49:51,730
is dependent upon the amount of rainfall

3614
02:49:56,920 --> 02:49:54,170
looking at tree rings I mean there's a

3615
02:50:00,580 --> 02:49:56,930
whole multitude of these proxies that

3616
02:50:02,620 --> 02:50:00,590
have been used to reconstruct an ancient

3617
02:50:04,240 --> 02:50:02,630
climate looking at pollen you know

3618
02:50:06,640 --> 02:50:04,250
digging up a core and looking at the

3619
02:50:09,370 --> 02:50:06,650
type of pollen and realizing oh look

3620
02:50:11,950 --> 02:50:09,380
here we've got pollen that's from trees

3621
02:50:13,890 --> 02:50:11,960
that grow in northern latitudes and then

3622
02:50:17,440 --> 02:50:13,900
on top of that we have pollen that's

3623
02:50:19,450 --> 02:50:17,450
deposited by trees growing 500 or a

3624
02:50:21,880 --> 02:50:19,460
thousand miles farther south so

3625
02:50:24,280 --> 02:50:21,890
obviously you can conclude there was a

3626
02:50:26,080 --> 02:50:24,290
major shift in climate so around two and

3627
02:50:28,860 --> 02:50:26,090
half million years ago major shift in

3628
02:50:31,480 --> 02:50:28,870
climate the climate of the planet cooled

3629
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:31,490
dramatically we began this period this

3630
02:50:35,800 --> 02:50:32,960
oscillating period of glacial

3631
02:50:38,950 --> 02:50:35,810
interglacial ages and within that span

3632
02:50:42,640 --> 02:50:38,960
of time to the extent that we can

3633
02:50:45,700 --> 02:50:42,650
discern the duration or length of the

3634
02:50:48,280 --> 02:50:45,710
interglacial warm periods what it is now

3635
02:50:51,220 --> 02:50:48,290
appearing is that the Holocene the one

3636
02:50:53,261 --> 02:50:51,230
we're in now is the longest interglacial

3637
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:53,271
warm period of a quarter million years

3638
02:50:58,660 --> 02:50:56,690
so what does that imply well you can you

3639
02:51:02,110 --> 02:50:58,670
can Maul that over yourself and think

3640
02:51:03,850 --> 02:51:02,120
about what that implies but to me what

3641
02:51:08,080 --> 02:51:03,860
it implies is we can't take anything for

3642
02:51:09,790 --> 02:51:08,090
granted because when when a break came

3643
02:51:12,100 --> 02:51:09,800
earlier I was just mentioned in Canada

3644
02:51:14,320 --> 02:51:12,110
because when we go back to the last

3645
02:51:17,080 --> 02:51:14,330
interglacial period we have to think

3646
02:51:19,810 --> 02:51:17,090
that okay a global climate similar to

3647
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:19,820
what we were in now now present

3648
02:51:23,590 --> 02:51:21,530
you have a lot of snow that falls over

3649
02:51:26,260 --> 02:51:23,600
the northern United States and Canada in

3650
02:51:28,450 --> 02:51:26,270
the winter spring comes it all melts

3651
02:51:30,160 --> 02:51:28,460
away and goes back into the into the

3652
02:51:32,380 --> 02:51:30,170
rivers into from the rivers into the

3653
02:51:34,900 --> 02:51:32,390
oceans right this is the hydrological

3654
02:51:38,110 --> 02:51:34,910
cycle and it keeps going and it's very

3655
02:51:40,630 --> 02:51:38,120
predictable but now imagine this you've

3656
02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:40,640
got you know six seven months of winter

3657
02:51:46,060 --> 02:51:42,410
in the northern United States in Canada

3658
02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:46,070
right and fairly confident that come

3659
02:51:52,380 --> 02:51:49,610
April May spring is going to come the

3660
02:51:54,190 --> 02:51:52,390
snow will melt away but now imagine this

3661
02:51:57,040 --> 02:51:54,200
the snow comes

3662
02:52:00,070 --> 02:51:57,050
but then spring doesn't come spring

3663
02:52:02,080 --> 02:52:00,080
doesn't come for ten or fifteen thousand

3664
02:52:04,060 --> 02:52:02,090
years and that's literally what we're

3665
02:52:05,710 --> 02:52:04,070
talking about here right now instead of

3666
02:52:07,719 --> 02:52:05,720
the snow melting away and going back to

3667
02:52:09,580 --> 02:52:07,729
the ocean it just accumulates layer

3668
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:09,590
after layer after layer after layer

3669
02:52:14,800 --> 02:52:12,530
until eventually it's a mile thick or

3670
02:52:18,130 --> 02:52:14,810
two miles thick and that is almost

3671
02:52:20,740 --> 02:52:18,140
inconceivable but it happens and it has

3672
02:52:23,710 --> 02:52:20,750
happened and we're still not sure why

3673
02:52:25,900 --> 02:52:23,720
and but I can tell you this a high

3674
02:52:28,180 --> 02:52:25,910
priority is that we figured this [\h__\h]

3675
02:52:30,370 --> 02:52:28,190
out Jimmy and and this is why I get

3676
02:52:32,170 --> 02:52:30,380
frustrated when I hear people for

3677
02:52:34,600 --> 02:52:32,180
political reasons and promoting

3678
02:52:37,960 --> 02:52:34,610
political agendas saying well the debate

3679
02:52:39,940 --> 02:52:37,970
on climate change is settled and my

3680
02:52:44,170 --> 02:52:39,950
response to that is no it hasn't really

3681
02:52:45,820 --> 02:52:44,180
even begun yet so excuse me if I get a

3682
02:52:51,070 --> 02:52:45,830
little bit irritated when I hear that

3683
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:51,080
but I do Randall you have critics you

3684
02:52:56,890 --> 02:52:54,110
actually have critics oh I do

3685
02:52:58,740 --> 02:52:56,900
oh man I want to go I do and it's

3686
02:53:01,030 --> 02:52:58,750
usually the same it's usually the same

3687
02:53:03,130 --> 02:53:01,040
variations on the same theme over and

3688
02:53:04,780 --> 02:53:03,140
over again they never address the facts

3689
02:53:06,730 --> 02:53:04,790
that I've brought to the discussion

3690
02:53:08,800 --> 02:53:06,740
because everything we've been discussing

3691
02:53:10,180 --> 02:53:08,810
tonight I you you want you want to

3692
02:53:13,540 --> 02:53:10,190
challenge me I will provide you the

3693
02:53:15,340 --> 02:53:13,550
references copious references this isn't

3694
02:53:17,860 --> 02:53:15,350
just something I've concerned up out of

3695
02:53:19,150 --> 02:53:17,870
my head after you know I got to stoned

3696
02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:19,160
one night or something this is something

3697
02:53:28,000 --> 02:53:23,210
I have been working on since 1969 okay

3698
02:53:29,920 --> 02:53:28,010
right how many it's 49 years okay so you

3699
02:53:32,020 --> 02:53:29,930
know don't don't come to me and say

3700
02:53:33,310 --> 02:53:32,030
something about well he hasn't been

3701
02:53:38,350 --> 02:53:33,320
peer-reviewed

3702
02:53:39,850 --> 02:53:38,360
be a corrupt processes at this why I

3703
02:53:43,001 --> 02:53:39,860
won't use the term corrupt I would use

3704
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:43,011
the word compromised and you can go and

3705
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:45,920
you can present a very thoroughly well

3706
02:53:51,970 --> 02:53:50,000
researched very specialized research

3707
02:53:54,730 --> 02:53:51,980
article presented it presented to the

3708
02:53:57,070 --> 02:53:54,740
scientific literature pay them a lot of

3709
02:54:00,131 --> 02:53:57,080
money and they will publish it if they

3710
02:54:03,640 --> 02:54:00,141
seem fit if they think that it conforms

3711
02:54:05,650 --> 02:54:03,650
to their models of reality if it doesn't

3712
02:54:07,810 --> 02:54:05,660
it doesn't matter how well researched it

3713
02:54:10,600 --> 02:54:07,820
is how buttress it is by facts by

3714
02:54:12,190 --> 02:54:10,610
evidence it will get rejected and and

3715
02:54:14,291 --> 02:54:12,200
I'm sorry to say that's a part of the

3716
02:54:16,060 --> 02:54:14,301
peer-review process right now and since

3717
02:54:19,511 --> 02:54:16,070
we've now got hundreds of millions of

3718
02:54:22,261 --> 02:54:19,521
dollars flowing into the coffers of the

3719
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:22,271
IPCC and various government agencies

3720
02:54:28,541 --> 02:54:26,000
whose primary responsibility is

3721
02:54:31,030 --> 02:54:28,551
promoting human caused climate change

3722
02:54:33,430 --> 02:54:31,040
and that they have a very powerful

3723
02:54:35,501 --> 02:54:33,440
influence on mainstream scientific

3724
02:54:37,631 --> 02:54:35,511
literature if you come with something

3725
02:54:39,490 --> 02:54:37,641
that's going to contradict that well

3726
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your chances of getting rejected are

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very high so that the peer-reviewed

3728
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process is is compromised the second

3729
02:54:48,461 --> 02:54:46,580
thing is well I don't have a formal

3730
02:54:51,370 --> 02:54:48,471
degree and I don't and the reason I

3731
02:54:53,320 --> 02:54:51,380
don't is because when I was in majoring

3732
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in geology and looking at well what are

3733
02:54:58,120 --> 02:54:55,780
the you know what is the professional

3734
02:55:00,160 --> 02:54:58,130
outcomes of this do I want to work for

3735
02:55:02,501 --> 02:55:00,170
industry not really do I want to work

3736
02:55:04,421 --> 02:55:02,511
for the government no not at all

3737
02:55:05,620 --> 02:55:04,431
what does that leave me well nowhere

3738
02:55:08,591 --> 02:55:05,630
other than the fact and I'm studying

3739
02:55:11,080 --> 02:55:08,601
geology because I love geology

3740
02:55:13,961 --> 02:55:11,090
I love understanding how the world world

3741
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works so I carry on my own business in

3742
02:55:18,251 --> 02:55:16,490
my you know my day job and I've set up

3743
02:55:20,820 --> 02:55:18,261
my business that it gives me enough free

3744
02:55:23,650 --> 02:55:20,830
time that I can spend all my free time

3745
02:55:26,200 --> 02:55:23,660
interacting with the earth interacting

3746
02:55:29,080 --> 02:55:26,210
with professionals and I can say since I

3747
02:55:30,400 --> 02:55:29,090
you know gone more public with this in

3748
02:55:32,890 --> 02:55:30,410
the last three or four years I've had

3749
02:55:35,110 --> 02:55:32,900
the privilege of interacting with dozens

3750
02:55:37,720 --> 02:55:35,120
of professionals that are engaged in

3751
02:55:39,700 --> 02:55:37,730
cutting-edge work that have reached out

3752
02:55:41,440 --> 02:55:39,710
to me I've spent time in the field with

3753
02:55:43,810 --> 02:55:41,450
now several dozen scientists that are

3754
02:55:46,960 --> 02:55:43,820
doing cutting-edge work and I'll say

3755
02:55:48,729 --> 02:55:46,970
this going out in the field for four

3756
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:48,739
five days or a week with somebody doing

3757
02:55:53,620 --> 02:55:50,960
cutting-edge research for example one

3758
02:55:57,490 --> 02:55:53,630
geologist that I went out with was Brad

3759
02:56:00,580 --> 02:55:57,500
young back a year ago last October was

3760
02:56:02,979 --> 02:56:00,590
one of the leading world's experts on

3761
02:56:04,979 --> 02:56:02,989
the formation of drumlins which are an

3762
02:56:07,960 --> 02:56:04,989
extremely interesting enigmatic

3763
02:56:09,040 --> 02:56:07,970
geomorphological feature right now I

3764
02:56:11,110 --> 02:56:09,050
spend four days

3765
02:56:14,139 --> 02:56:11,120
within the field with him I would

3766
02:56:16,840 --> 02:56:14,149
consider that it's valuable as a seminar

3767
02:56:18,809 --> 02:56:16,850
of sitting in a geology classroom

3768
02:56:21,370 --> 02:56:18,819
listening to a professor drone on and on

3769
02:56:23,979 --> 02:56:21,380
now see I've been doing this for 40

3770
02:56:26,679 --> 02:56:23,989
years now so then when I get attacked by

3771
02:56:29,530 --> 02:56:26,689
the critics they never attack really the

3772
02:56:33,099 --> 02:56:29,540
information very seldom what they do is

3773
02:56:35,950 --> 02:56:33,109
they attack it's all ad hominem stuff

3774
02:56:37,809 --> 02:56:35,960
you know well my approach is that I'm

3775
02:56:39,820 --> 02:56:37,819
like the fact that I'm doing this with

3776
02:56:42,670 --> 02:56:39,830
you now is because I'm putting this

3777
02:56:45,250 --> 02:56:42,680
information out for peer review by the

3778
02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:45,260
world you get it I'm putting this out

3779
02:56:49,450 --> 02:56:47,359
there and I go on Joe Rogan so 10

3780
02:56:51,700 --> 02:56:49,460
million or 15 or 20 million people will

3781
02:56:53,139 --> 02:56:51,710
hear it and they can do their peer

3782
02:56:55,330 --> 02:56:53,149
review they can do their homework they

3783
02:56:57,059 --> 02:56:55,340
can check my sources and I challenge

3784
02:56:59,380 --> 02:56:57,069
them to check my sources and

3785
02:57:01,120 --> 02:56:59,390
occasionally I am wrong of course

3786
02:57:03,400 --> 02:57:01,130
because anybody who attempts to amass a

3787
02:57:05,320 --> 02:57:03,410
huge accumulation of information like

3788
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:05,330
this is going to occasionally misstep

3789
02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:08,090
but the fact is I think that that most

3790
02:57:14,170 --> 02:57:10,160
of what I have gathered together stands

3791
02:57:18,010 --> 02:57:14,180
the test the critical test and so the

3792
02:57:20,410 --> 02:57:18,020
critics I actually welcome people with

3793
02:57:22,840 --> 02:57:20,420
with informed criticism informed

3794
02:57:24,550 --> 02:57:22,850
fair-minded criticism we're looking at

3795
02:57:26,679 --> 02:57:24,560
the information I present with with an

3796
02:57:29,139 --> 02:57:26,689
open mind rather than say basically

3797
02:57:30,820 --> 02:57:29,149
coming on in regurgitating some textbook

3798
02:57:32,830 --> 02:57:30,830
explanation which I've gotten quite a

3799
02:57:35,380 --> 02:57:32,840
bit of you know I can see well somebody

3800
02:57:35,920 --> 02:57:35,390
took a geology course in college 15

3801
02:57:37,150 --> 02:57:35,930
years ago

3802
02:57:39,280 --> 02:57:37,160
says they're going to quote some

3803
02:57:41,500 --> 02:57:39,290
textbook explanation to me about what

3804
02:57:45,631 --> 02:57:41,510
causes the post-glacial leg of floods

3805
02:57:48,870 --> 02:57:45,641
for example well no okay Randall

3806
02:57:52,470 --> 02:57:48,880
I'm gonna be cut off by the network so

3807
02:57:55,410 --> 02:57:52,480
just let me just say this I've got a run

3808
02:57:57,180 --> 02:57:55,420
I gotta say thank you right now and I

3809
02:57:59,671 --> 02:57:57,190
hate to cut you off in the middle of a

3810
02:58:02,280 --> 02:57:59,681
thought but the network's gonna do that

3811
02:58:03,511 --> 02:58:02,290
if I don't and that there you go so I'll

3812
02:58:06,180 --> 02:58:03,521
take the blame for it

3813
02:58:07,650 --> 02:58:06,190
random okay in the middle of my rant I

3814
02:58:10,020 --> 02:58:07,660
know I know

3815
02:58:12,421 --> 02:58:10,030
well I'm glad I got that off my chest

3816
02:58:14,070 --> 02:58:12,431
yes you do have that perspective on this

3817
02:58:16,740 --> 02:58:14,080
whole thing on the records that we've

3818
02:58:18,450 --> 02:58:16,750
got on the record don't we and Randall

3819
02:58:21,330 --> 02:58:18,460
don't ever change my friend don't ever

3820
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:21,340
change thank you so much all right man

3821
02:58:25,410 --> 02:58:22,540
thanks Jimmy

3822
02:58:28,020 --> 02:58:25,420
you're the best Randall Carlson a sacred

3823
02:58:30,270 --> 02:58:28,030
geometry international.com the links are

3824
02:58:32,190 --> 02:58:30,280
at Jimmy Turks radio calm and like I

3825
02:58:35,131 --> 02:58:32,200
said I had to cut them off it's better

3826
02:58:37,470 --> 02:58:35,141
that I do it and then the network and

3827
02:58:41,131 --> 02:58:37,480
doing it so rudely fade to black it's

3828
02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:41,141
produced by rate ritika murray on shows

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02:58:45,511 --> 02:58:43,480
produced by Hill Jay Paul Renee Dennis

3830
02:58:48,030 --> 02:58:45,521
and Bob announcers our Steve Carter

3831
02:58:50,100 --> 02:58:48,040
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3832
02:58:52,680 --> 02:58:50,110
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02:58:55,070 --> 02:58:52,690
boy space boy music calm fade to black

3834
02:58:59,011 --> 02:58:55,080
kids produced by kjsurya he met work

3835
02:59:01,200 --> 02:58:59,021
syndication is kgr a the planet thank

3836
02:59:03,480 --> 02:59:01,210
you to Randall Carlson for everything

3837
02:59:05,341 --> 02:59:03,490
that he does it's broadcast on the

3838
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:05,351
copyright of 2018 by fade to black in

3839
02:59:09,120 --> 02:59:07,210
the game changer Network it cannot be

3840
02:59:10,770 --> 02:59:09,130
rebroadcast download a copy to use

3841
02:59:12,600 --> 02:59:10,780
anywhere in the known universe without

3842
02:59:14,190 --> 02:59:12,610
written permission for fade to black of

3843
02:59:15,930 --> 02:59:14,200
the game change the network I'm Errol to

3844
02:59:18,570 --> 02:59:15,940
be Church follow me on twitter I

3845
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:18,580
teachers radio you can follow Randall at

3846
02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:22,330
sacred geometry int sacred geometry in

3847
02:59:26,070 --> 02:59:24,730
and of course his website said Jimmy

3848
02:59:27,810 --> 02:59:26,080
Church radio calm

3849
02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:27,820
alright everybody until tomorrow night

3850
02:59:37,710 --> 02:59:30,610
open lines I'm your oath to me Church be